Soyuz-2.1b / Fregat - Vostochny Launch - 2024-11-04 23:18 UTC

HORS-3 435.650 object 61753

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HORS-4 435.700 object 61754

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MORDOVIA-IOT 437.093 object 61765 (61766 as an option)

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Thanks all for the suggestions! Are all in DB and soon in Network.

I’m going through the whole list of the satellites and update accordingly and confirming also your findings. Hopefully by the end for the day I’ll post here the updated status table.

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Altair
1 61779U 24199AW  24341.76123431  .00014570  00000-0  60253-3 0  9992
2 61779  97.3796 206.0624 0018629 126.3491 233.9469 15.23910355 51843

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Looks like S2.1b Unknown 2 is 61751

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Seems like my TLE`s on certain satellites are completely off on Gpredict… What exact source do i need to add to get the latest updates?

Jomjom79

The 2024-199xx objects appear to be our sats! They are in Celestrak starting around object # 61735.

https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/gp.php?GROUP=active&FORMAT=tle

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… and if you scroll back up in this thread, folks are starting to determine some of the most likely matches between those objects and satellites from this deployment

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Just wondered why there was such a huge discrepancy between what Satnogs DB shows compared to Gpredict even though i thought i had the same TLE sources.

Jomjom79

There was NO official TLE information for these objects prior to +/- 24 hours ago. Everyone was using calculated estimates.

Now that distributors like Celestrak have TLEs for the objects associated with this deployment (from the U.S. Military → https://www.vandenberg.spaceforce.mil/Units/CSpOC-DEL-5/ )

… then the next task is to determine which NORAD # matches each of our sats!

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You can also add the satnogs TLE source at the moment we are matching the unknown objects to satellites belonging to this launch.

Every time we find a match they will be added or modified.

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Yeah thats the one im using. However it does not match up with what DB shows, and i was guessing that was the same source.

Or am i doing something wrong with just adding that link into TLE sources on Gpredict?

Edit: Deleted all contents of the satdata folder and reloaded. Seems to be correct now.

Jomjom79

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MORDOVIA-IOT Used obj. 61765

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RTU MIREA1 - 61785 confirmed by Jan @PE0SAT via strf

Horizon - 61755 confirmed by Jan @PE0SAT via strf

Colibri-S - 61746 confirmed by Jan @PE0SAT via strf

ArcticSat-1 - 61762 confirmed by Jan @PE0SAT via strf

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Hello! There are some our suggestions (third number is rms, if there is another candidacy in 0,5 kHz range, it’s listed too):

SITRO-AIS-13 61743 0.114
SITRO-AIS-14 61752 0.095
SITRO-AIS-15 61738 0.106
SITRO-AIS-16 61737 0.093
SITRO-AIS-17 61789 0.097
SITRO-AIS-18 61790 0.070
SITRO-AIS-19 61759 0.097
SITRO-AIS-20 61758 0.099
SITRO-AIS-21 61739 0.097 61740 0.37
SITRO-AIS-22 61740 0.089 61739 0.41
SITRO-AIS-23 61742 0.059
SITRO-AIS-24 61741 0.108
SITRO-AIS-37 61780 0.091
SITRO-AIS-38 61786 0.078 61782 0.33
SITRO-AIS-39 61778 0.109
SITRO-AIS-40 61776 0.087
SITRO-AIS-41 61760 0.139 61756 0.40
SITRO-AIS-42 61756 0.111 61760 0.272
SITRO-AIS-43 61755 0.086 61757 0.223
SITRO-AIS-44 61748 0.113
SITRO-AIS-45 61788 0.102
SITRO-AIS-46 61774 0.081 61773 0.475
SITRO-AIS-47 61773 0.104
SITRO-AIS-48 61771 0.111
Sit-HSE 61763 0.125
Sit-2086 61764 0.110
These two meet geoscan’s suggestion:
ArcticSat-1 61762 0.094
HyperView-1G 61772 0.120

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@sputnix Thank you for your list!

It confirms what @PE0SAT had suggested for SITRO-AIS sats earlier in the matrix chat and we follow them since then!

Unfortunately, with the recent re-entries and deployments I didn’t have the time to create the status table and post it, I’ll do probably tomorrow.

Given that the TLE sets have changed and are now assigned, we can start also some identifications if they are clear fits!

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Launched Objects Identification Current Status by Community (11.12.2024)

NORAD ID (space-track link) Satellite (SatNOGS DB link) Possible satellite (if not identified) Frequency (if identified)
61735 IONOSFERA-M 01 150.000 MHz, 400.000 MHz
61736 IONOSFERA-M 02 150.000 MHz, 400.000 MHz
61737 SITRO-AIS-16 401.075 MHz
61738 SITRO-AIS-15 401.055 MHz
61739 SITRO-AIS-21 401.175 MHz
61740 SITRO-AIS-22 401.195 MHz
61741 SITRO-AIS-24 401.235 MHz
61742 SITRO-AIS-23 401.215 MHz
61743 SITRO-AIS-13 401.015 MHz
61744 CSTP-2.11 437.985 MHz
61745 Polytech Universe-5 436.350 MHz
61746 Colibri-S 436.835 MHz, 10475.000 MHz
61747 Polytech Universe-4 435.250 MHz
61748 SITRO-AIS-44 401.165 MHz
61749 Vizard-ion 436.870 MHz, 10475.000 MHz
61750 MTUSI-1 435.600 MHz
61751 Vladivostok-1 436.805 MHz
61752 SITRO-AIS-14 401.035 MHz
61753 Hors 3 435.650 MHz
61754 Hors 4 435.700 MHz
61755 SITRO-AIS-43 401.145 MHz
61756 SITRO-AIS-42 401.125 MHz
61757 Horizon 435.430 MHz, 10474.000 MHz
61758 SITRO-AIS-20 401.155 MHz
61759 SITRO-AIS-19 401.135 MHz
61760 SITRO-AIS-41 401.105 MHz
61761 Norby-3? - -
61762 ArcticSat-1 435.890 MHz
61763 SIT-HSE 401.015 MHz
61764 SIT-2086 401.030 MHz
61765 MORDOVIA-IOT 437.090 MHz, 437.100 MHz
61766 RUZAEVKA-390 437.050 MHz
61767 Nokhcho? - -
61768 HOD-HOD 436.250 MHz
61769 Kosar 436.740 MHz
61770 - - -
61771 SITRO-AIS-48 401.245 MHz
61772 HyperView-1G 436.540 MHz, 436.600 MHz
61773 SITRO-AIS-47 401.225 MHz
61774 SITRO-AIS-46 401.205 MHz
61775 CSTP-2.2 437.050 MHz
61776 SITRO-AIS-40 401.085 MHz
61777 CSTP-2.1 437.485 MHz
61778 SITRO-AIS-39 401.065 MHz
61779 Altair 435.215 MHz
61780 SITRO-AIS-37 401.0025 MHz
61781 ASRTU-1 435.400 MHz, 10460.000 MHz
61782 TUSUR GO 437.730 MHz, 10475.000 MHz
61783 ZIMSAT-2 437.050 MHz
61784 SamSat-Ionosphere 437.400 MHz
61785 RTU MIREA1 436.200 MHz, 10473.000 MHz
61786 SITRO-AIS-38 401.045 MHz
61787 SWSU-60? - -
61788 SITRO-AIS-45 401.185 MHz
61789 SITRO-AIS-17 401.095 MHz
61790 SITRO-AIS-18 401.115 MHz

Unidentified DB entries: 3
Nokhcho
SWSU-60
Norby-3

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Assumptions about unidentificated satellites are based on deploy time. This left us with 56th object 61770 which is strangest of them all with lowest orbit. (55 satellites were launched)

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After analysis and additional info (thanks @geoscan and @PE0SAT):

S2.1b Unknown 2 is DOSAAF-85(RS-44) and it doesn’t belong to this launch
S2.1b Unknown 3 is MTUSI-1

Both are merged in DB and Network. With this, we have finished with the unknown satellites for this launch.

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