Great! Thank you very much for the clarification!
Unknown satellite of T13 and Al-Munther have been merged in DB as all the evidence posted in previous posts shows that this is the one. Here is an updated TLE for the satellite:
Al-Munther
1 98618U 25087.72467533 .00000000 00000-0 61433-3 0 04
2 98618 97.4396 342.7346 0006612 339.5368 55.5074 15.16627964 06
Also, good news that Al-Munther doesn’t transmit in the radio amateur band as it was stated in the ITU entry but in the 400-403 MHz band.
Celestrak has published TLEs for the Transporter 13 launch, 2025-052:
https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/table.php?GROUP=last-30-days&FORMAT=tle
Objects are still unidentified.
Thanks @rcampana for noting this, actually celestrak re-destribute space-track.org TLE sets, here is the list (still TBA status):
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63210U 25052A 25087.96689845 .00021501 00000-0 10484-2 0 9991
2 63210 97.4514 343.0843 0003651 185.7358 174.3835 15.18329538 2223
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63211U 25052B 25087.96746428 .00023743 00000-0 11578-2 0 9998
2 63211 97.4506 343.0823 0003415 191.4994 168.6162 15.18308364 2224
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63212U 25052C 25087.96928611 .00051519 00000-0 25130-2 0 9996
2 63212 97.4373 343.0617 0000561 202.3108 157.8101 15.18116377 2220
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63213U 25052D 25087.96906182 .00022846 00000-0 11206-2 0 9996
2 63213 97.4422 343.0681 0001981 204.6608 155.4532 15.18113908 2223
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63214U 25052E 25087.96908011 .00022708 00000-0 11140-2 0 9994
2 63214 97.4422 343.0682 0001980 204.5351 155.5789 15.18110451 2223
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63215U 25052F 25087.96934095 .00022693 00000-0 11145-2 0 9994
2 63215 97.4423 343.0680 0001981 206.0870 154.0265 15.18072349 2223
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63216U 25052G 25087.97030499 .00018652 00000-0 92188-3 0 9998
2 63216 97.4381 343.0607 0001086 226.8543 133.2600 15.17891202 2227
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63217U 25052H 25087.64134876 .00022067 00000-0 10899-2 0 9990
2 63217 97.4398 342.7384 0001687 239.0329 121.0739 15.17879718 2179
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63218U 25052J 25087.64142538 .00021862 00000-0 10801-2 0 9990
2 63218 97.4399 342.7384 0001709 240.0340 120.0725 15.17871481 2174
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63219U 25052K 25087.97105014 .00022656 00000-0 11186-2 0 9994
2 63219 97.4400 343.0623 0001758 237.1099 122.9966 15.17887115 2225
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63220U 25052L 25087.97270008 .00011543 00000-0 57867-3 0 9992
2 63220 97.4476 343.0717 0003042 227.4425 132.6552 15.17503257 2228
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63221U 25052M 25087.97336282 .00008633 00000-0 43535-3 0 9993
2 63221 97.4397 343.0586 0001936 246.1868 113.9162 15.17378773 2226
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63222U 25052N 25087.97387460 .00011903 00000-0 59868-3 0 9998
2 63222 97.4484 343.0716 0003449 236.6772 123.4131 15.17377403 2229
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63223U 25052P 25087.97373200 .00012303 00000-0 61811-3 0 9992
2 63223 97.4434 343.0636 0002730 243.2096 116.8859 15.17409681 2228
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63224U 25052Q 25088.17307849 .00011036 00000-0 55782-3 0 9994
2 63224 97.4455 343.2597 0003613 248.4461 111.6388 15.17223053 2254
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63225U 25052R 25087.97524282 .00009979 00000-0 50495-3 0 9993
2 63225 97.4496 343.0721 0004274 245.0463 115.0327 15.17212018 2223
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63226U 25052S 25087.97594877 .00009507 00000-0 48265-3 0 9990
2 63226 97.4465 343.0665 0003890 253.0211 107.0596 15.17108413 2222
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63227U 25052T 25087.97715757 .00007910 00000-0 40419-3 0 9992
2 63227 97.4462 343.0649 0003383 262.3900 97.6949 15.16940574 2224
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63228U 25052U 25087.97723406 .00012860 00000-0 65338-3 0 9990
2 63228 97.4432 343.0588 0003864 266.0448 94.0344 15.17004156 2224
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63229U 25052V 25087.97772704 .00012108 00000-0 61641-3 0 9994
2 63229 97.4458 343.0632 0003582 270.5602 89.5221 15.16947387 2226
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63230U 25052W 25087.64902586 .00006490 00000-0 33440-3 0 9996
2 63230 97.4421 342.7310 0004030 275.1375 84.9398 15.16714462 2178
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63231U 25052X 25087.97774858 .00015199 00000-0 77131-3 0 9993
2 63231 97.4421 343.0562 0004002 272.5307 87.5468 15.17005291 2224
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63232U 25052Y 25087.64892104 .00012790 00000-0 65274-3 0 9992
2 63232 97.4464 342.7381 0004860 267.4563 92.6114 15.16843026 2170
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63233U 25052Z 25087.65011726 .00006700 00000-0 34619-3 0 9990
2 63233 97.4429 342.7313 0004955 279.4959 80.5714 15.16602241 2178
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63234U 25052AA 25087.91509527 .00009832 00000-0 50670-3 0 9995
2 63234 97.4478 342.9960 0006129 266.9134 93.1397 15.16561631 2213
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63235U 25052AB 25087.91506045 .00016716 00000-0 85593-3 0 9999
2 63235 97.4377 342.9814 0005666 284.6470 75.4135 15.16662690 2215
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63236U 25052AC 25087.65269209 .00009722 00000-0 50394-3 0 9999
2 63236 97.4383 342.7221 0006166 285.4006 74.6546 15.16361038 2177
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63237U 25052AD 25087.65105193 .00021238 00000-0 10827-2 0 9993
2 63237 97.4461 342.7347 0006393 269.5387 90.5114 15.16761712 2172
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63238U 25052AE 25087.91513247 .00021865 00000-0 11149-2 0 9990
2 63238 97.4463 342.9937 0006481 268.1946 91.8545 15.16748118 2218
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63239U 25052AF 25087.58550233 .00021485 00000-0 10973-2 0 9992
2 63239 97.4462 342.6694 0006495 270.3317 89.7172 15.16695317 2165
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63240U 25052AG 25087.65228974 .00020390 00000-0 10443-2 0 9992
2 63240 97.4407 342.7259 0006637 280.5973 79.4512 15.16605929 2178
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63241U 25052AH 25087.91689100 .00018047 00000-0 92813-3 0 9992
2 63241 97.4374 342.9794 0006737 283.9211 76.1273 15.16485524 2211
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63242U 25052AJ 25088.17963550 .00010461 00000-0 54944-3 0 9991
2 63242 97.4417 343.2453 0006617 305.5140 54.5475 15.15871912 2252
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63243U 25052AK 25088.17435837 .00011363 00000-0 56627-3 0 9996
2 63243 97.4427 343.2525 0004595 217.0170 143.0748 15.17710768 2257
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63244U 25052AL 25087.94260706 .00007219 00000-0 72987-3 0 9994
2 63244 97.7394 342.8336 0003610 226.8505 133.2412 14.91299875 2167
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63245U 25052AM 25087.94178051 .00003212 00000-0 32789-3 0 9991
2 63245 97.7370 342.8367 0002651 250.7624 109.3308 14.91314999 2161
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63246U 25052AN 25087.94041885 .00009966 00000-0 99803-3 0 9998
2 63246 97.7339 342.8380 0002488 279.4106 80.6832 14.91583938 2167
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63247U 25052AP 25087.93983042 .00010305 00000-0 10302-2 0 9993
2 63247 97.7383 342.8387 0002121 232.4364 127.6662 14.91643802 2163
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63248U 25052AQ 25087.46936653 .00010016 00000-0 99880-3 0 9996
2 63248 97.7405 342.3776 0002072 211.5598 148.5496 14.91753736 2095
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63249U 25052AR 25087.93926193 .00010193 00000-0 10178-2 0 9995
2 63249 97.7362 342.8401 0001690 259.1770 100.9258 14.91694203 2162
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63250U 25052AS 25087.46921157 .00008602 00000-0 85856-3 0 9998
2 63250 97.7391 342.3786 0001740 223.6375 136.4707 14.91762659 2096
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63251U 25052AT 25087.46856121 .00007584 00000-0 75686-3 0 9995
2 63251 97.7355 342.3823 0001321 282.6049 77.5022 14.91805589 2092
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63252U 25052AU 25087.46865324 .00005949 00000-0 59582-3 0 9991
2 63252 97.7368 342.3805 0000922 270.4301 89.6812 14.91750568 2096
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63253U 25052AV 25087.46787147 .00006516 00000-0 65037-3 0 9991
2 63253 97.7371 342.3814 0000504 271.5346 88.5816 14.91851993 2094
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63254U 25052AW 25087.53283659 .00005726 00000-0 56855-3 0 9999
2 63254 97.7371 342.4497 0000338 263.1031 97.0149 14.92115690 2100
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63255U 25052AX 25087.53441177 .00004253 00000-0 42627-3 0 9997
2 63255 97.7388 342.4485 0000378 207.0400 153.0799 14.91881084 2107
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63256U 25052AY 25087.53093669 .00002996 00000-0 29873-3 0 9997
2 63256 97.7384 342.4533 0001447 88.6278 271.5107 14.92309337 2108
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63257U 25052AZ 25087.53097207 .00007794 00000-0 76760-3 0 9998
2 63257 97.7365 342.4519 0001532 72.5845 287.5541 14.92325667 2102
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63258U 25052BA 25088.20089649 .00006467 00000-0 63709-3 0 9990
2 63258 97.7383 343.1118 0001859 89.4553 270.6879 14.92381706 2216
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63259U 25052BB 25087.52946069 .00009074 00000-0 88821-3 0 9992
2 63259 97.7417 342.4532 0002688 114.6548 245.4951 14.92521087 2100
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63260U 25052BC 25087.52863701 .00005040 00000-0 49595-3 0 9999
2 63260 97.7355 342.4570 0002800 54.8879 305.2602 14.92528740 2104
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63261U 25052BD 25087.52732825 .00010306 00000-0 10012-2 0 9994
2 63261 97.7400 342.4551 0003333 92.9997 267.1604 14.92785708 2108
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63262U 25052BE 25087.52613653 .00008063 00000-0 78283-3 0 9994
2 63262 97.7352 342.4613 0003712 53.4485 306.7075 14.92883063 2104
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63263U 25052BF 25087.92829105 .00008162 00000-0 79217-3 0 9998
2 63263 97.7351 342.8566 0003687 52.3370 307.8183 14.92889874 2161
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63264U 25052BG 25087.52522860 .00008754 00000-0 84711-3 0 9995
2 63264 97.7358 342.4613 0004081 63.0688 297.0948 14.92987643 2104
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63395U 25052BH 25087.52434622 .00011464 00000-0 11030-2 0 9993
2 63395 97.7377 342.4607 0004484 73.1046 287.0664 14.93139851 2105
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 63396U 25052BJ 25077.80628811 .00013930 00000-0 13490-2 0 9991
2 63396 97.7381 332.9050 0004381 89.5826 270.5895 14.92831816 661
Unknown object from this obs:
63230 is close with -f -10
offset
But it looks more like it is just the TLE for ION
JINJUSat-1B is 63210 with +2kHz offset
NUSHSat1 is 63211 with +2.35 kHz frequency offset
9 TEVEL satellites are in a range from 63212 to 63220
Here is a status update, most of the results confirm what @geoscan and @PE0SAT posted in the previous posts:
Temporary NORAD ID | Satellite | NORAD ID to follow | Other NORAD IDs | Identified | Deployed | Reception | Last Update |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
RECEIVED & DEMODULATED/DECODED | |||||||
98652 | OTP-2 | 63235 | 63234(unlikely), 63237(unlikely), 63238(unlikely) | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63235, other possible 63234(unlikely), 63237(unlikely), 63238(unlikely) |
98635 | ION SCV-017 | 63230 | 63231 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63230 |
98636 | BOTSAT-1 | 63216 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63216 | |
98638 | UVSQ-SAT-NG | 63251 | 63252 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63251, other possible 63252 |
98650 | JINJUSat-1B | 63210 | 63211(unlikely) | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63210, other possible 63211(unlikely) |
98628 | NUSHSat1 | 63211 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63211 | |
98647 | TEVEL2-1 | 63217 | 63218, 63219 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63217, other possible 63218, 63219 |
98646 | TEVEL2-2 | 63218 | 63217, 63219 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63218, other possible 63217, 63219 |
98645 | TEVEL2-3 | 63219 | 63217, 63218 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63219, other possible 63217, 63218 |
98644 | TEVEL2-4 | 63213 | 63212, 63214, 63215 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63213, other possible 63212, 63214, 63215 |
98643 | TEVEL2-5 | 63214 | 63212, 63213, 63215 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63214, other possible 63212, 63213, 63215 |
98642 | TEVEL2-6 | 63215 | 63212, 63213, 63214 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63215, other possible 63212, 63213, 63214 |
98641 | TEVEL2-7 | 63237 | 63233(unlikely), 63234, 63235, 63238, 63239, 63242(unlikely) | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63237, other possible 63233(unlikely), 63234, 63235, 63238, 63239, 63242(unlikely) |
98640 | TEVEL2-8 | 63238 | 63233(unlikely), 63234, 63235, 63237, 63239, 63242(unlikely) | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63238, other possible 63233(unlikely), 63234, 63235, 63237, 63239, 63242(unlikely) |
98639 | TEVEL2-9 | 63239 | 63233(unlikely), 63234, 63235, 63237, 63238, 63242(unlikely) | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63239, other possible 63233(unlikely), 63234, 63235, 63237, 63238, 63242(unlikely) |
98618 | Al-Munther | 63240 | 63242(unlikely) | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63240, other possible 63242(unlikely) |
RECEIVED | |||||||
98622 | M-SEL/CORTEZ | 63231 | 63229 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63231, other possible 63229 |
98621 | Sphinx/Frazier | 63232 | 63230 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63232, other possible 63230 |
98648 | Buccaneer MM | 63245 | NO | YES | YES | Received, changed to follow 63245 | |
98614 | HERMES H2 | 63229 | 63227, 63228, 63230(unlikely), 63231, 63232(unlikely), 63243 | NO | YES | NO | Received, changed to follow 63229, other possible 63227, 63228, 63230(unlikely), 63231, 63232(unlikely), 63243 |
UNKNOWN STATUS | |||||||
98615 | HERMES H1 | 63228 | all | NO | YES | NO | Changed to follow 63228(random choice), other possible all |
98613 | HERMES H3 | - | all | NO | NO | ||
98612 | HERMES H4 | - | all | NO | NO | ||
98611 | HERMES H5 | - | all | NO | NO | ||
98610 | HERMES H6 | - | all | NO | NO | ||
98637 | HADES-ICM | - | all | NO | NO | ||
98634 | HYDRA-W | - | all | NO | NO | ||
98737 | NILA | 63233 | all | NO | YES | NO | Changed to follow 63233(random choice), other possible all |
98630 | HYVRID | 63252 | all | NO | YES | NO | Changed to follow 63252(random choice), other possible all |
98625 | EZIE-A | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98624 | EZIE-B | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98623 | EZIE-C | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98627 | SOAP-1 | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98617 | Clarity-1 | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98620 | AEROCUBE-18 A | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98619 | AEROCUBE-18 B | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98631 | DROID.002 | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98633 | IOD-1 | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98632 | ARVAKER I | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98629 | Firesat-0 | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN | |
98626 | YAM-8 | - | all | NO | YES | UNKNOWN |
Some notes on the status table above:
- Please double check the results if possible add to them, confirm them or invalidate them.
- These results are based only in Network’s results, in later updates we may update the data based on other sources too. So, the satellites with unknown status may be healthy and transmitting but not received by the Network
- In some cases we have only one fit but without the TLE be assigned we avoid to finalize the identification.
- We have 57 TLE sets but we expect more, as the payloads (some of them hosted though) are 74 according to SpaceX. This is another reason not to perform identification in this phase.
Hi @fredy,
Thank you very much, this is really useful.
We are actually working on a statistical analysis in order to identify Hermes H1 and H2, can I ask you if you have considered in your table the up-to-date HERMES TLE Davide posted yesterday?
Thanks again
Yuri for the HERMES team
This also applies to @geoscan post
No, I’ve checked the TLE against the one observation that we had HERMES H2 reception and for HERMES H1 I’ve set one that is close to ION deployer and HERMES H2 selected TLE.
As we don’t have any other data to analyse, I don’t mind to set both to follow other TLE sets if you want to try them. Just let me know.
The NUSHSAT-1 team confirms that 63211 is correct. Have successfully conducted 2 way communications using 63211’s TLE.
Thanks for the confirmation,
We need to keep monitoring the ID because it wouldn’t be the first time that objects are swapped during this time of the identification.