Tips and Trick: How I Vet 100 observations in less than 5 minutes

log to your satno dashboard,
and click the orange number at top right corner:
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or make custom vet:
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and then click Vet Search Results button
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and to make vetting faster, dont use mouse.
just put your left middle finger standby on G and left index finger on B of your keyboard, and just press:
g = good = there is a signal from the expected satellite
b = bad = no signal on waterfall
u = unknown = if you want keep it in orange status

if you have another faster trick for vet, please share with us in this thread.

thank you for your attention & good luck!
73!

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Instead of using u you can also use the right arrow with your other hand to skip the current one… also it is easy to go back by using the left arrow if needed.

Depending on the amount of observations, it may be easier to go per satellite, this is very helpful as you have only one pattern in your mind to identify.

As I’m usually vet per satellite here are some more advices for this method:

If the satellite is pretty active, vet only the clearly good/easy to spot signal in waterfall, so only hitting g or right arrow and then go for the unvetted ones that need better attention.

If the satellite is less active, vet only the clearly bad/easy to spot no signal in the watefall, so only hitting b or right arrow and then go for the unvetted with signals and determine if the signals belong to the satellite or not.

The above methods can be used also for vetting multiple satellites but more difficult to spot or not the signal as per satellite there is a different pattern.


As sometimes there is a need for re-vetting a satellite’s observation, here are the steps I’m choosing to follow:

  1. Filter by choosing With Signal in “Rated Artifacts” filter (in more filters). This give you all the observations with waterfall vetted with signal, so with a quick pass you can agree with the vetting and hit the right arrow or disagree and hit the b button.
  2. Then filter good observations (keep enabled only the green tick) and choose Non Rated in “Rated Artifacts” filter (in more filters). This will give you the observations with data that automatically marked as good. In general case the data belong to the satellite, and vetting waterfalls is mostly limited to hit the g button.
  3. Then filter Without Signal in “Rated Artifacts” filter (in more filters). This give you all the observations with waterfall vetted without signal, so with a quick pass you can agree with the vetting and hit the right arrow or disagree and hit the b button.
  4. Then filter Non Rated in “Rated Artifacts” filter (in more filters). This give you all the remaining observations with unvetted waterfall, so you follow the standard vetting process.

Part of the above can also be used when you don’t focus only on one satellite, but as I said focus to one satellite makes things easier.


While the previous method is good, there is a case that I prefer not to use it, this is when the satellite has issues and we have few or none good observations or in other words when searching if the satellite is alive.

In this case I choose to go with getting all the observations and vet them carefully using what @bali described, but keeping the already vetted once too. In this way due to some overlapping observations, it is easier to say if the signal you see in this observation is also visible on the next/previous which performed on the same time, as the observations are ordered by start time. This way is easy to spot terrestrial signals or signals from other satellites, however…

Caution! Not seeing signal in one observation but see on another at the same time doesn’t necessarily mean that the signal doesn’t belong to the satellite as if station has observed signal or not depends on various parameters, for example different pass elevation, different duration (which currently affect waterfall size and resolution), station status, station calibration, station receiving capabilities, noise levels, satellite pointing etc.

By the way vetting by keeping in mind the (stations) networked nature can give advantages, like the one described above.


Finally I take the chance to talk about the upcoming and currently developed feature of multi-vetting. That in its first phase will allow vetting of one waterfall from multiple sources/ursers (no need to be a station owner to vet as it is now), that will result in more automation (tools that will analyse the waterfall (or other artifacts in the future) and auto-vet) and by suitable tuning (simple for this phase but better in the next ones) will give more accurate/trusted results.

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wow . thank you for deep advice.. left / right button, focus on one satellite, etc are very helpfull.

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before 16885

now 9982:
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I appreciate your efforts… seriously…

As a station owner, I’m looking at “foreign” obs on my station that are >2 weeks old, and doing a looksy. I find that I have a lot of terrestrial interference ~400-401 MHz, and that’s giving me a couple ideas for experimentation station(s)… testing other antenna to see if I can reduce/eliminate this noise.

So much to do…

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thank you! vetting a thousands waterfall make me burnout. hope there is some smart guy that can create genious / clever trick to auto vet this. so lazy noob like me can take more rest, with just one click.

btw i just wondering how @freddy not burnout… incredible!

also @PE0SAT , salute!

note: you can check everyone orange vetting number.. all is open. just use observations > browse

but the positive is, it increase my muscle memory to identify signal on waterfall with just look.. not much. but better than one month ago.. lol

Just to mention here, that vetting isn’t obligatory. You can check more details behind the reasoning in older threads of this forum (not able to find and link them right now).

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i found genious trick, that make my vetting faster 50% and comfort especially for my eyes and hand, no need scroll up and down.

how? just rotate your monitor 90 degree / vertical mode.

update:

loading my final stage:

You can DO it!!!

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thank you friend!

finally.. after vetting more than 16K observations in 20 days

73!

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And you wrapped it up at 11:11… not only did you do a mountain of work, you did it with STYLE!

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