SpaceX F9 Transporter-9 - Vandenberg - 2023-11-11 18:47 UTC

Hi all, can you guys help track spaceANT-D (98995) deployed 29.11.23 09:14UTC on amatuer UHF 437.425MHz. The signal is in CW Morse Code OOK form.
By the way what is the meaning of “100%overlap” when about to schedule the observation?

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No sign of anything on a high-elevation pass over the Eastern U.S. around 0315utc tonight; will keep trying!

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Hi all, I try to change my launch and deploy date in SatNOGS DB, but it say that I need to fill in the citation. What is citation means? Also, what does it mean when I try to schedule it and it cannot be scheduled as it already overlap?

By the way, does anyone have the updated TLE because we only received this TLE only:
First TLE:

1 99999U 23000XX  23333.38472222  .00000000  00000-0 -29891-4 0  9998
2 99999  97.4824  46.0541 0011000 182.7228  83.4074 15.15203911    07

Second TLE:

1 99999U 23000XX  23333.71458333  .00000000  00000-0 -36394-4 0  9998
2 99999  97.4830  46.3783 0010945 181.7779  81.6299 15.15207030    07

Citation field is the way to track from where the information comes from. Usually is a link to a page that contains the information, for example a tweet from a radio amateur, or the page of a launch provider or a satellite team.

About scheduling, this means that other satellites with similar orbit have already been scheduled on a station. If this is your station you can delete these observations and re-schedule. Usually this happens often when new satellites are deployed from the same launch as they share for the first days/weeks similar orbits. For that reason we are trying (manually for now, automatically in the future) to keep a balance when scheduling new deployments.

For this launch, until we identify (connect satellites with their NORAD ID) the received satellites, I make sure that all satellites get their share on the network and the opportunity to be received. So, you can either leave the scheduling on me, or schedule but make sure you will leave several passes for other satellites. In case of excessive scheduling, I’m going to remove some observations, to allow others to be scheduled.

One last note, my manual handling of this balance isn’t perfect, as it is happened manually and massively but I try to be as fair as possible.

The TLE that was assigned to the satellite, SPACEANT-D, is the one that we had for ION SCV-013 deployer and it works fine even if it is old. To give you an overview here is depicted the FOV of 4 TLE sets:

  1. The one we used for ION-SCV013 and passed to SPACEANT-D
  2. The one that space-track.org has published and fits better ION-SCV013 deployer
  3. and 4. The ones you shared in your post above:

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Discard the names as this is an issue of the software, as you see all the TLE cover the same area with the difference of some seconds. This means that if satellite is transmitting on the expected frequency, whichever TLE we use station will receive the satellite.

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I had described in this post how I perform scheduling.

By the way especially for member from satellite teams, for more quick and active coordination, feel free to join our #satnogs matrix channel, more info can be found in this wiki page.

Correct decoder if using Andy demodulator is the byte version one:

https://www.amsat-ea.org/app/download/13650186/hades_d-byte-decoder-windows.exe

(the bit version one receives bits from stdin and can be used with our bit demodulator)

Thanks!

Félix EA4GQS

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It appears that the pocketqubes ROM-3 and SPACEANT are out of service after being deployed from the ALBApod 6. This is concerning news for the teams behind these satellites, as they were likely hoping for a successful deployment. It’s unclear what may have caused the malfunction, but it will be important for the teams to investigate and determine if there is any possibility of restoring functionality to the satellites. We will have to wait for further updates from the teams involved in order to understand the full impact of this situation.

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@LW2DTZ let’s wait a couple of days, we have seen in the past satellites not heard initially but after a watchdog reset or battery charging came back to life.

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I completely agree with your optimistic outlook. :crossed_fingers:

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It was a long wait, but we finally have an ‘official’ TLE for one of these objects!

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Unfortunately, the TLE for Object #58294 did not line up with the observed downlink packets from Hades-D. So, I was only able to snag -1- live decode on today’s pass. If this is the correct object ID, then hopefully the TLE will be updated with more accurate numbers.

https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1730269246154752436

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@K4KDR My guess is that we don’t have Object that describe HADES-D published. Given that the Objects were published some hours after HADES-D, I don’t think 18th had the time to track it and analyze it, given that there were deployed 3 satellites together and also satellites of pocketqube size, which are more difficult to track.

If I’m not mistaken, there are 3-5 objects that are near (to fit) ION Deployer signals. Probably these are the satellites, like Intuition that were deployed a couple of days before TLE published.

Actually, I’ve just counted and there were 89 satellites deployed from SpaceX vehicle. There are rumors (haven’t checked for an official announcement to be honest) for 2-4 satellite not deployed. So, we expect 85-87 TLE sets for these objects + TLE sets for the ION 6 objects + 9(?) apogeo satellites + TLE sets for the Alba Orbital (hosted on ION) 6 pocketqubes.

So with some rough calculations we expect:

110 satellites (maybe minus 2-4 satellite not deployed) - 87 published sets = 23 (maybe minus 2-4).

In nasaspaceflight forum they have in the first post that there were 113 satellites, I haven’t count in detail, maybe they count some possible satellites. So we may expect 3 more TLE sets.

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By the way the TLE are now assigned:

0 OBJECT A
1 58256U 23174A   23333.74135889  .00018512  00000-0  10236-2 0  9993
2 58256  97.4781  46.3540 0010398 216.1850 143.8679 15.13883537  3320
0 OBJECT B
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2 58257  97.4798  46.3538 0012244 222.2654 137.7634 15.13690281  3323
0 OBJECT C
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2 58258  97.4770  46.3477 0011674 220.7110 139.3250 15.13480258  3325
0 OBJECT D
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2 58259  97.4774  46.3503 0011839 217.7970 142.2431 15.13575733  3320
0 OBJECT E
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2 58260  97.4842  46.3646 0011974 218.3291 141.7091 15.13742672  3323
0 OBJECT F
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2 58261  97.4856  46.3666 0013042 216.7188 143.3151 15.13716117  3326
0 OBJECT G
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2 58262  97.4832  46.3604 0012622 218.0351 141.9990 15.13604368  3322
0 OBJECT H
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2 58263  97.4788  46.3527 0011034 220.8507 139.1898 15.13730232  3323
0 OBJECT J
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2 58264  97.4875  46.3715 0012393 218.3615 141.6737 15.13647867  3322
0 OBJECT K
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2 58265  97.4742  46.3421 0009886 218.7304 141.3219 15.13577123  3321
0 OBJECT L
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2 58266  97.4880  46.3737 0013107 212.6824 147.3598 15.13893948  3328
0 OBJECT M
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2 58267  97.4765  46.3498 0010499 218.5974 141.4508 15.13859061  3321
0 OBJECT N
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2 58268  97.4801  46.3568 0010846 217.2172 142.8309 15.13723651  3322
0 OBJECT P
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2 58269  97.4854  46.3713 0012149 211.1931 148.8580 15.14039928  3322
0 OBJECT Q
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2 58270  97.4841  46.3716 0010763 209.2906 150.7724 15.14000921  3326
0 OBJECT R
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2 58271  97.4807  46.3622 0010708 209.9857 150.0762 15.13929758  3328
0 OBJECT S
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2 58272  97.4808  46.3620 0008690 201.7363 158.3501 15.14062753  3323
0 OBJECT T
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2 58273  97.4831  46.3688 0010510 209.2626 150.8018 15.13974208  3329
0 OBJECT U
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2 58274  97.4838  46.4429 0010182 203.4035 156.6734 15.14239143  3339
0 OBJECT V
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2 58275  97.4799  46.3612 0009909 207.0685 153.0031 15.14026678  3322
0 OBJECT W
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2 58276  97.4748  46.3488 0009510 207.2546 152.8188 15.13929032  3329
0 OBJECT X
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2 58277  97.4801  46.3606 0008857 199.1528 160.9372 15.14129744  3322
0 OBJECT Y
1 58278U 23174Y   23333.73772142  .00010029  00000-0  55375-3 0  9994
2 58278  97.4786  46.3578 0009324 203.5423 156.5383 15.14089462  3322
0 OBJECT Z
1 58279U 23174Z   23333.80357746  .00009171  00000-0  50653-3 0  9992
2 58279  97.4857  46.4422 0011178 206.6751 153.3907 15.14090469  3336
0 OBJECT AA
1 58280U 23174AA  23333.80342652  .00009967  00000-0  54992-3 0  9997
2 58280  97.4841  46.4404 0010034 205.3998 154.6742 15.14112112  3331
0 OBJECT AB
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2 58281  97.4825  46.3732 0009738 202.3489 157.7320 15.14405962  3321
0 OBJECT AC
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0 OBJECT AD
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0 OBJECT AE
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2 58284  97.4846  46.4444 0010475 203.9637 156.1108 15.14271871  3338
0 OBJECT AF
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2 58285  97.4861  46.4469 0011120 204.2331 155.8380 15.14277714  3336
0 OBJECT AG
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2 58286  97.4862  46.4466 0011465 202.8254 157.2469 15.14301457  3331
0 OBJECT AH
1 58287U 23174AH  23333.73496458  .00014052  00000-0  76768-3 0  9996
2 58287  97.4791  46.3603 0009739 194.4528 165.6427 15.14379183  3323
0 OBJECT AJ
1 58288U 23174AJ  23333.80024820  .00018249  00000-0  99143-3 0  9999
2 58288  97.4828  46.4406 0009960 202.0176 158.0630 15.14517915  3338
0 OBJECT AK
1 58289U 23174AK  23332.67229742  .00069090  00000-0  36036-2 0  9995
2 58289  97.4906  45.3591 0011427 213.2333 146.8183 15.15612865  3169
0 OBJECT AL
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2 58290  97.4913  44.8383 0011362 215.9531 144.0938 15.15661864  3081
0 FALCONSAT-10
1 58291U 23174AM  23333.80140133  .00006835  00000-0  37705-3 0  9993
2 58291  97.4815  46.4357 0010367 196.0151 164.0754 15.14236749  3338
0 OBJECT AN
1 58292U 23174AN  23333.86448235  .00040834  00000-0  21800-2 0  9999
2 58292  97.4806  46.4992 0009867 198.3034 161.7845 15.14960923  3346
0 OBJECT AP
1 58293U 23174AP  23332.67581532  .00017640  00000-0  95647-3 0  9996
2 58293  97.4821  45.3360 0010130 204.4978 155.5773 15.14592920  3161
0 OBJECT AQ
1 58294U 23174AQ  23333.86495140  .00019744  00000-0  10685-2 0  9993
2 58294  97.4827  46.5078 0010327 200.7632 159.3182 15.14636966  3346
0 OBJECT AR
1 58295U 23174AR  23333.86618363  .00008969  00000-0  49156-3 0  9991
2 58295  97.4814  46.5026 0010690 196.8794 163.2084 15.14377022  3343
0 OBJECT AS
1 58296U 23174AS  23333.79973439  .00007213  00000-0  39598-3 0  9992
2 58296  97.4816  46.4392 0010896 198.1578 161.9266 15.14383417  3335
0 OBJECT AT
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2 58297  97.4806  46.3723 0010693 197.0122 163.0753 15.15154597  3329
0 OBJECT AU
1 58298U 23174AU  23333.86469705  .00005905  00000-0  32419-3 0  9999
2 58298  97.4825  46.5080 0011533 198.0735 162.0089 15.14457711  3340
0 OBJECT AV
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2 58299  97.4799  46.4998 0011020 194.0976 165.9950 15.14814663  3344
0 OBJECT AW
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2 58300  97.4816  46.5056 0011597 198.0672 162.0149 15.14476761  3340
0 OBJECT AX
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2 58301  97.4831  46.5115 0011990 196.4702 163.6142 15.14590393  3345
0 OBJECT AY
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2 58302  97.4826  46.5117 0011532 198.7704 161.3104 15.14923773  3346
0 OBJECT AZ
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2 58303  97.4767  46.4947 0010478 190.1531 169.9491 15.14757004  3348
0 OBJECT BA
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2 58304  97.4860  46.5178 0012045 193.6049 166.4860 15.14740518  3348
0 OBJECT BB
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2 58305  97.4770  46.4956 0010735 189.6689 170.4338 15.14858624  3344
0 OBJECT BC
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2 58306  97.4778  46.4958 0011220 190.5416 169.5583 15.14755268  3345
0 OBJECT BD
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0 OBJECT BE
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2 58308  97.4788  46.4996 0011566 191.6163 168.4804 15.15093449  3345
0 OBJECT BF
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2 58309  97.4839  46.5183 0012482 198.2127 161.8660 15.14884026  3348
0 OBJECT BG
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2 58310  97.4853  46.5194 0012311 192.8868 167.2052 15.14928107  3345
0 OBJECT BH
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2 58311  97.4777  46.4996 0010810 187.9683 172.1379 15.14887941  3349
0 OBJECT BJ
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0 OBJECT BK
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2 58313  97.4842  46.5178 0012524 193.5825 166.5072 15.14920151  3340
0 OBJECT BL
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2 58314  97.4784  46.4996 0011740 188.9345 171.1680 15.14894040  3341
0 OBJECT BM
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0 OBJECT BN
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0 OBJECT BP
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0 OBJECT BQ
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0 OBJECT BR
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0 OBJECT BS
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0 OBJECT BT
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0 OBJECT BU
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0 OBJECT BV
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0 OBJECT BW
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0 OBJECT BX
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0 OBJECT BY
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0 OBJECT BZ
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0 OBJECT CA
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0 OBJECT CB
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0 OBJECT CC
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0 OBJECT CD
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0 OBJECT CE
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0 OBJECT CF
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0 OBJECT CG
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0 OBJECT CH
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0 OBJECT CJ
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0 OBJECT CK
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0 OBJECT CL
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0 OBJECT CM
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0 OBJECT CN
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0 OBJECT CP
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0 OBJECT CQ
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2 58342  97.4826  46.5909 0012436 170.0990 190.0490 15.15832970  3350
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Thanks @fredy . Yes, Let’s hope for the best for both SpaceANT-D and ROM3.

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Object 2023-174AS provided VERY close doppler tracking tonight for Hades-D over the Eastern U.S. around 0304utc. However, it was not perfect enough for hands-off decoding… tried to fine-tune on the fly but only got one decode. Still very happy to add more telemetry to the database, though!

https://twitter.com/scott23192/status/1730432721996964315

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I continue to record & review the area of 437.425 around every pass where SPACEANT-D should be, but unfortunately nothing seen (other than local non-doppler noise sources & satellites on adjacent frequencies)

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Thank you @K4KDR . We saw more and more fade signal in waterfall from observation in DB. But all on GFSK which suppose for mission data. Is your observation including CW?

Sorry, which satellite & which observation are you asking about?

@K4KDR the SpaceANT-D.