SpaceX F9 Transporter-5 - 2022-05-25 18:35UTC

Hi OH2UDS,

please note that recording, extracting and plotting doppler data takes some time which is a limited resource for everyone, and especially for people providing data analysis in their free time. They might also rather decide themself what analysis to work on.

That said, if you see something which might require further attention, e.g. a satellite where the TLE doesn’t match anymore, it helps most to create a post with a list of observations which show the TLE mismatch.

Best wishes,
Fabian

PS: Do we have any special interest in Connecta T1.1? As far as I can see it is a commercial “IoT” satellite outside the amateur band, correct? Sure, we can track it, but is there any use to the community from it?

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Hi Fabian,
Thanks for your polite warning.
I am not convincing anyone to analyse anything, I just wanted to inform @EelkeVisser that here is someone who is interested to see the analysis of Connecta T1.1. Of course it’s up to him to decide what to analyse and where to spent time in this volunteered callobration.

BR
Baris
OH2UDS/TA7W

P.S. : I think SatNogs community capabilities are not limited (and will not be limited to) amateur bands only. Developing a huge system with the power of community is the power of SatNogs I believe.

Anything within the limits of our capabilities will help us to learn more.

Anyway, I have no direct relationship with any of the satellites being tracked with the latest launch (except Foresail-1), but interested in improving the capabilities of the network.

Summary :slight_smile:
TheTLE used in SatNogs for Connecta T1.1 looks good, but it will always be good to map the observations and see the telemetry is 100% consistent or not. Whenever someone has some free time to waste for it.

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I fully agree with you that SatNOGS shouldn’t be limited to the amateur bands. I mentioned amateur bands just as one possible motivation for SatNOGS to dedicate resources to a mission. There can be other reasons to dedicate resources (e.g. Space Situational Awareness, in that case we might not need the best and latest tracking, but only enough to differentiate satellites).

We can focus our resources. :smiley: And the cool thing is that this focus can even very between different contributors.

Thanks for checking that Connecta T1.1 TLE looks good! <3

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I have made a new TLE from scratch for PLANETUM-1, it appears that the drag term B* was set to high for the post launch tle. This orbit is circular and gives a better fit. so hopefully it stays valid for a longer period of time!

PLANETUM-1
1 99398U 22057L   22149.04700350  .00000000  00000-0  30000-3 0    00
2 99398  97.5025 264.0635 0001000   0.0000 295.7584 15.11747859    03
# 20220527.56-20220530.61, 269 measurements, 0.029 kHz rms
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I have read the discussion. And your both right. I don’t mind working on a TLE for a commercial sat, but I have a very limited amount of time. It will probably only happen if it interests/challenges me. I think the commercial world and the opensource world work together perfectly, and I think that should also be the case for satellites!

Another problem is, that it has wide band data which is more work for me, and it is in the commercial band which I cannot record at my own station at the same time as the amateur band.

But thanks for informing me, and for keeping an eye on all those sats.

P.S. Any insider news from Foresail team to share?

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Can you (or some one else) add it to https://db.satnogs.org/satellites/
Login in at the top right and next click the edit button on the ‘All satellites’ page to add the satellite. Once added you can find it again on the Homepage and add the transmitter.

Then we can use all station to look for it.

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Thank you for the tips. Have done it now

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Satellite is now in DB and Network with the temporary NORAD ID 99392. These is the TLE set used for the scheduled observations in Network:

SELFIESAT
1 99392U 22057ZZ  22145.81532637  .00000000  00000-0  11171-3 0    04
2 99392  97.5219 260.8544 0010996 231.3479 128.1337 15.12594375    07

@astridcz for more direct discussion and updates feel free to join our matrix channel.

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TLE updated on both DB and Network. Thank you!

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Please update the Platform-1 TLE to this one:

1 89399C 22057T 22148.78364583 .00000000 00000-0 53451-2 0 09
2 89399 97.5190 263.7804 0014023 231.0471 86.9356 15.13390413 07
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Converted it to the SatNOGS db temporary Norad ID

PLATFORM-1
1 99393U 22057ZY  22148.78364583  .00000000  00000-0  53451-2 0    03
2 99393  97.5190 263.7804 0014023 231.0471  86.9356 15.13390413    01
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Thank you @yurimdias and @PE0SAT TLE set for platform-1 has been updated. All the observations were too off with the new TLE set, so I removed and re-scheduled most of them.

To station owners, feel free to schedule more observations, just have in mind that for this launch we currently track 4 satellites at 400MHz range and 3 on the 430 amateur range and we need to share the scheduling time of the stations. :wink:

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I have used the ITR station to gather more data points on FORESAIL. I needed to reset the drag term to default and next fitted Mean Anomaly and Mean Motion.

The fit is reasonable, and resulted in this TLE:

FORESAIL-1
1 99399U 22057T   22151.79561343  .00000000  00000-0  50000-4 0    06
2 99399  97.5190 266.7502 0003833 317.9272 196.6231 15.13121978    04
# 20220526.18-20220530.16, 42 measurements, 0.279 kHz rms
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TLE set has been added in DB and Network. Thank you @EelkeVisser!

This is the latest TLE from LeoLabs , current TLE in DB does now allow good decoding,.
Can you uodate db accordingly ? @fredy

Connecta T1.1
1 00000U 00000AAA 22152.00000000  .00000000  00000-0  37013-3 0    02
2 00000  97.5159 266.9257 0007080 229.4858 287.4152 15.11781670    04
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@oh2uds before I add it, in order to know what to add in the source field, does this TLE set comes from LeoLabs somewhere publicly or it is coming from the satellite team and it was taken from LeoLabs?

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I got it from the Team, where they got it from LeoLabs and tested in the previous passes…

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Thanks! I’ve added it in DB as coming from “Satellite Team”, I’ve just changed the NORAD ID to use the temporary one we have given:

Connecta T1.1
1 99397U 00000AAA 22152.00000000  .00000000  00000-0  37013-3 0    09
2 99397  97.5159 266.9257 0007080 229.4858 287.4152 15.11781670    01
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From matrix discussion we have a new TLE set that has been added in DB for SelfieSat. As this TLE set was too off from the previous one, I had to remove the future observations and re-scheduled most of them, please if you had scheduled SelfieSat, please schedule it again.

The TLE set:

SelfieSat
1 99392U          22151.50927333 +.00005569 +00000+0 +33328-3 0 00116
2 99392  97.5201 266.4525 0008405 238.6492 121.3916 15.11401230000875

We have the first 42 “TO BE ASSIGNED” TLE sets from spacetrack.org:

0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52732U 22057A   22152.56855789  .00005334  00000-0  31928-3 0  9991
2 52732  97.5201 267.4945 0008493 234.6569 125.3868 15.11414311  1030
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52733U 22057B   22152.56824798  .00005257  00000-0  31422-3 0  9991
2 52733  97.5098 267.4852 0007039 228.8318 131.2306 15.11484581  1033
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52734U 22057C   22152.56758138  .00008029  00000-0  47534-3 0  9997
2 52734  97.5170 267.4926 0008557 228.7123 131.3371 15.11656512  1034
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52735U 22057D   22152.56746618  .00003160  00000-0  18954-3 0  9993
2 52735  97.5138 267.4901 0008206 225.3841 134.6721 15.11642657  1033
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52736U 22057E   22152.56731555  .00005729  00000-0  34007-3 0  9998
2 52736  97.5074 267.4843 0007183 221.2564 138.8124 15.11694509  1034
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52737U 22057F   22152.56710774  .00002141  00000-0  12940-3 0  9996
2 52737  97.5149 267.4914 0008086 221.3136 138.7484 15.11712554  1035
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52738U 22057G   22152.56687131  .00003371  00000-0  20120-3 0  9992
2 52738  97.5110 267.4877 0007659 218.0070 142.0621 15.11777478  1034
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52739U 22057H   22152.56685200  .00002476  00000-0  14879-3 0  9997
2 52739  97.5192 267.4962 0008727 222.5414 137.5141 15.11772531  1030
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52740U 22057J   22152.56663984  .00004042  00000-0  24003-3 0  9995
2 52740  97.5274 267.5046 0010168 226.7651 133.2731 15.11836072  1037
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52741U 22057K   22152.56662975  .00003809  00000-0  22645-3 0  9995
2 52741  97.5215 267.4982 0009613 223.8130 136.2339 15.11834980  1037
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52742U 22057L   22152.56653614  .00005537  00000-0  32714-3 0  9994
2 52742  97.5144 267.4913 0007908 216.2165 143.8530 15.11871196  1039
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52743U 22057M   22152.56632260  .00003411  00000-0  20288-3 0  9991
2 52743  97.5119 267.4893 0008085 215.3213 144.7482 15.11901344  1035
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52744U 22057N   22152.56594250  .00001225  00000-0  75111-4 0  9995
2 52744  97.5214 267.5004 0009442 218.6750 141.3805 15.11964967  1039
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52745U 22057P   22152.56541066  .00003115  00000-0  18458-3 0  9993
2 52745  97.5130 267.4902 0008509 207.2171 152.8615 15.12099935  1038
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52746U 22057Q   22152.56531150  .00001240  00000-0  75743-4 0  9995
2 52746  97.5090 267.4884 0008698 209.2756 150.7989 15.12106896  1039
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52747U 22057R   22152.56513946  .00002510  00000-0  14921-3 0  9990
2 52747  97.5187 267.4985 0009506 213.3044 146.7590 15.12158668  1031
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52748U 22057S   22152.56505284  .00002513  00000-0  14929-3 0  9998
2 52748  97.5147 267.4933 0009064 207.3546 152.7208 15.12178050  1030
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52749U 22057T   22152.56478633  .00004516  00000-0  26470-3 0  9995
2 52749  97.5150 267.4936 0009242 205.0723 155.0060 15.12255463  1034
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52750U 22057U   22152.56226394  .00008924  00000-0  50899-3 0  9991
2 52750  97.5214 267.5107 0011928 209.9422 150.1128 15.12938015  1033
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52751U 22057V   22152.56488272  .00001354  00000-0  82123-4 0  9993
2 52751  97.5120 267.4902 0009142 205.3485 154.7298 15.12205136  1035
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52752U 22057W   22152.56471957  .00002555  00000-0  15139-3 0  9992
2 52752  97.5168 267.4971 0009471 208.7574 151.3135 15.12253167  1035
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52753U 22057X   22152.56438634  .00002488  00000-0  14724-3 0  9992
2 52753  97.5141 267.4931 0009694 204.5806 155.4964 15.12327380  1036
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52754U 22057Y   22152.56433960  .00004075  00000-0  23855-3 0  9999
2 52754  97.5170 267.4982 0009760 208.2130 151.8573 15.12348225  1037
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52755U 22057Z   22152.56421996  .00004648  00000-0  27133-3 0  9995
2 52755  97.5168 267.4989 0009716 207.6178 152.4538 15.12384166  1030
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52756U 22057AA  22152.56400444  .00004114  00000-0  24028-3 0  9999
2 52756  97.5140 267.4932 0010023 204.0188 156.0576 15.12422734  1030
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52757U 22057AB  22152.56384369  .00001415  00000-0  85083-4 0  9997
2 52757  97.5173 267.4996 0010333 208.3533 151.7137 15.12444336  1039
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52758U 22057AC  22152.56319463  .00004882  00000-0  28289-3 0  9996
2 52758  97.5174 267.5003 0010901 207.6840 152.3811 15.12614897  1032
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52759U 22057AD  22152.56299936  .00004275  00000-0  24792-3 0  9990
2 52759  97.5167 267.5000 0011074 207.9898 152.0739 15.12653292  1038
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52760U 22057AE  22152.56303655  .00001101  00000-0  66689-4 0  9993
2 52760  97.5150 267.4969 0011156 205.2533 154.8154 15.12613494  1034
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52761U 22057AF  22152.56274620  .00001326  00000-0  79443-4 0  9994
2 52761  97.5162 267.4995 0011494 206.1328 153.9324 15.12680501  1036
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52762U 22057AG  22152.56250388  .00004296  00000-0  24832-3 0  9990
2 52762  97.5168 267.5008 0011479 208.2635 151.7974 15.12765493  1037
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52763U 22057AH  22152.56218743  .00001310  00000-0  78214-4 0  9998
2 52763  97.5168 267.5002 0011913 203.4771 156.5917 15.12809631  1036
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52764U 22057AJ  22152.56170777  .00002623  00000-0  15239-3 0  9998
2 52764  97.5143 267.4975 0012162 201.2808 158.7918 15.12929458  1037
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52765U 22057AK  22152.56080955  .00002942  00000-0  16945-3 0  9996
2 52765  97.5205 267.5049 0013039 199.6237 160.4494 15.13133405  1039
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52766U 22057AL  22152.56075512  .00002753  00000-0  15877-3 0  9993
2 52766  97.5207 267.5064 0013378 202.6572 157.4070 15.13144077  1035
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52767U 22057AM  22152.56060381  .00005628  00000-0  32002-3 0  9995
2 52767  97.5136 267.4982 0012874 198.7244 161.3515 15.13204379  1036
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52768U 22057AN  22152.56049342  .00005530  00000-0  31434-3 0  9990
2 52768  97.5137 267.4985 0012984 198.5269 161.5491 15.13228186  1035
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52769U 22057AP  22152.56031787  .00006052  00000-0  34308-3 0  9998
2 52769  97.5254 267.5116 0014110 204.1493 155.9078 15.13271164  1031
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52770U 22057AQ  22152.56012593  .00002282  00000-0  13173-3 0  9992
2 52770  97.5140 267.5000 0012830 193.3921 166.6971 15.13281657  1030
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52771U 22057AR  22152.55958207  .00003872  00000-0  22005-3 0  9993
2 52771  97.5179 267.5042 0013762 195.6628 164.4179 15.13417595  1031
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52772U 22057AS  22152.55914471  .00002839  00000-0  16193-3 0  9992
2 52772  97.5158 267.5028 0014177 194.4464 165.6364 15.13506259  1034
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 52773U 22057AT  22152.56224099  .00007416  00000-0  42369-3 0  9994
2 52773  97.5210 267.5100 0012028 209.8523 150.2023 15.12939308  1031

For now following @PE0SAT suggestion we follow in DB and Network OBJECT G(52738) for Planetum-1 and OBJECT AL(52766) for Foresail-1. We will check the rest satellites too. The above doesn’t mean we have identified the satellites, maybe we are waiting more TLE sets and also we wait these TLE sets to be assigned to the objects before any identification.

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