These mass deployments are a mixed blessing… was hoping to verify the modulation + framing & get some decodes from Vigoride-6 around 400.524 but there were something like 8 satellites transmitting on top of each other. Until these things spread out, it’s going to take some luck to confirm the proper settings to decode them all. We only need one good packet, but it needs to be singing solo.
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I’m trying to receive Sateliot-0 and TAIFA-1 signal but no luck so far. I see you’re also unable to receive their signal. What could be the reason ?
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Hi D4KRN and welcome to the community,
Thanks for confirming that you haven’t received those two satellites.
There could be several reasons for a satellite not to transmit, a list of some we have seen in the past:
- Failed antenna deployment,
- Dead On Arrival (DOA) due to extreme launch conditions (vibrations etc)
- No sufficient power to transmit
- Satellite in sleep mode until it charges its batteries
- Satellite batteries are dead
- Software issues, for example satellite is on reboot loop state
- Satellite transmits only over specific area
- Satellite transmits only after ground station command (command not given or communication with ground station has issues)
- Low power transmissions that can not easily received.
EDIT: As in some of the cases above the satellite sooner or later will transmit, we keep trying to receive it for a couple more days.
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With the addition of the 2023-054xxx objects to Celestrak TLEs, we finally have something official to work with.
The Celestrak admin has even run something at his disposal to start trying to match up objects:
https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/transporter.match.txt
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INSPIRESAT-7 on 435.200 and 437.410 object 56211
KILICSAT on 436.900 object 56181
CIRBE on 437.250 object 58188
KILICSAT
1 56181U 23054D 23108.61407343 .00016752 00000-0 75348-3 0 9998
2 56181 97.4119 4.4087 0008123 237.8038 122.2410 15.21152288 1112
CIRBE
1 56188U 23054L 23108.61344039 .00021815 00000-0 97079-3 0 9998
2 56188 97.4134 4.4114 0008453 229.8084 130.2413 15.21461144 1111
INSPIRESAT-7
1 56211U 23054AK 23108.67616373 .00023146 00000-0 98687-3 0 9999
2 56211 97.4159 4.4821 0013922 214.8767 145.1558 15.22851872 1127
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Okay awesome. We’re interested in doing the TLE update step ourselves using SatNOGS data—is it possible to download observations? On most observations I just see the .png waterfall and the audio data available for download. Thank you!
Hello! Thanks for updating the TLE. We have another new estimate:
SAPLING
1 99236U 00000AAA 23109.16679462 .00000000 00000-0 95998-3 0 02
2 99236 97.4230 4.9717 0013977 207.1205 323.5885 15.23060410 05
Is there some better way for us to formally request TLE updates? I was able to suggest adding a different logo/links to the Sapling Giganteum page, but did not immediately see a way to edit the TLE.
Thank you!
Here are TLE sets from space-track.org, there are 38 TLE sets for 36 deployed satellites, probably the 2 extra are either deployed satellites from deployers or parts of the rocket. TLE sets are still TBA (To Be Assigned) so before any identification we need to wait to be assigned. Some of them may describe more than one objects.
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56178U 23054A 23109.55460628 .00000786 00000-0 15219-3 0 9994
2 56178 98.2135 5.2550 0007906 192.1378 167.9636 14.66045170 1246
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56179U 23054B 23108.61456297 .00011052 00000-0 50219-3 0 9995
2 56179 97.4092 4.4064 0007244 242.3677 117.6823 15.20906573 1116
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56180U 23054C 23109.20619380 .00020091 00000-0 90271-3 0 9992
2 56180 97.4154 4.9936 0008782 238.5925 121.4453 15.21144927 1199
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56181U 23054D 23108.61407343 .00016752 00000-0 75348-3 0 9998
2 56181 97.4119 4.4087 0008123 237.8038 122.2410 15.21152288 1112
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56182U 23054E 23108.61397398 .00020805 00000-0 93317-3 0 9997
2 56182 97.4047 4.4045 0007036 230.6428 129.4184 15.21210375 1112
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56183U 23054F 23108.61392406 .00011137 00000-0 50171-3 0 9992
2 56183 97.4073 4.4049 0006952 224.6833 135.3843 15.21204314 1119
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56184U 23054G 23108.61388333 .00016654 00000-0 74697-3 0 9995
2 56184 97.4181 4.4121 0009425 239.2500 120.7808 15.21240465 1118
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56185U 23054H 23108.61384397 .00019404 00000-0 86920-3 0 9990
2 56185 97.4076 4.4066 0007673 231.7964 128.2582 15.21265394 1114
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56186U 23054J 23108.61384555 .00006198 00000-0 28049-3 0 9991
2 56186 97.4131 4.4098 0008569 236.0283 124.0139 15.21225521 1119
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56187U 23054K 23108.61365211 .00021881 00000-0 97672-3 0 9994
2 56187 97.4053 4.4035 0007245 219.8783 140.1922 15.21363925 1118
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56188U 23054L 23108.61344039 .00021815 00000-0 97079-3 0 9998
2 56188 97.4134 4.4114 0008453 229.8084 130.2413 15.21461144 1111
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56189U 23054M 23108.67902212 .00012291 00000-0 54800-3 0 9991
2 56189 97.4148 4.4773 0008979 228.9634 131.0826 15.21518067 1127
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56190U 23054N 23108.67892402 .00014709 00000-0 65408-3 0 9994
2 56190 97.4081 4.4706 0008427 218.3761 141.6876 15.21570548 1127
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56191U 23054P 23108.67858128 .00009191 00000-0 40825-3 0 9997
2 56191 97.4114 4.4757 0008995 221.2618 138.7939 15.21727736 1125
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56192U 23054Q 23108.67857856 .00006626 00000-0 29548-3 0 9994
2 56192 97.4112 4.4760 0009206 219.4390 140.6177 15.21699042 1124
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56193U 23054R 23108.67848349 .00010483 00000-0 46446-3 0 9994
2 56193 97.4093 4.4725 0009342 217.2622 142.7967 15.21771186 1129
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56194U 23054S 23108.67846840 .00016229 00000-0 71662-3 0 9991
2 56194 97.4117 4.4770 0009335 220.7568 139.2971 15.21781541 1129
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56195U 23054T 23108.67839198 .00010722 00000-0 47455-3 0 9995
2 56195 97.4104 4.4731 0009789 216.5987 143.4581 15.21798742 1129
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56196U 23054U 23108.67792770 .00014841 00000-0 65088-3 0 9998
2 56196 97.4108 4.4774 0010235 221.7759 138.2697 15.22026374 1120
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56197U 23054V 23108.67789527 .00011513 00000-0 50580-3 0 9999
2 56197 97.4101 4.4738 0010610 218.6847 141.3630 15.22026803 1123
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56198U 23054W 23108.67770385 .00046348 00000-0 20063-2 0 9998
2 56198 97.4090 4.4732 0010735 216.3520 143.6988 15.22215749 1126
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56199U 23054X 23108.67774097 .00014586 00000-0 63817-3 0 9997
2 56199 97.4116 4.4777 0010739 221.4638 138.5785 15.22107565 1120
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56200U 23054Y 23108.74343660 .00009913 00000-0 43489-3 0 9997
2 56200 97.4096 4.5384 0010960 218.0587 141.9876 15.22112678 1137
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56201U 23054Z 23108.74319761 .00014848 00000-0 64698-3 0 9991
2 56201 97.4104 4.5400 0011380 219.6529 140.3876 15.22236887 1139
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56202U 23054AA 23108.74315884 .00015084 00000-0 65684-3 0 9993
2 56202 97.4118 4.5423 0011488 219.4122 140.6280 15.22254957 1136
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56203U 23054AB 23108.74311325 .00014969 00000-0 65146-3 0 9994
2 56203 97.4083 4.5373 0011504 215.7198 144.3270 15.22275016 1132
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56204U 23054AC 23108.67693657 .00006627 00000-0 28887-3 0 9991
2 56204 97.4148 4.4788 0012379 214.1895 145.8546 15.22448090 1127
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56205U 23054AD 23108.67594244 .00012669 00000-0 54117-3 0 9992
2 56205 97.4138 4.4805 0014194 212.0191 148.0185 15.22918513 1126
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56206U 23054AE 23108.67670852 .00030899 00000-0 13244-2 0 9993
2 56206 97.4052 4.4710 0012384 210.8201 149.2309 15.22630574 1123
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56207U 23054AF 23108.67651083 .00026153 00000-0 11193-2 0 9998
2 56207 97.4178 4.4831 0013440 217.7299 142.2996 15.22703939 1125
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56209U 23054AH 23108.67647061 .00007148 00000-0 30934-3 0 9999
2 56209 97.4112 4.4774 0012592 208.3387 151.7166 15.22661648 1126
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56210U 23054AJ 23108.67625169 .00009339 00000-0 40185-3 0 9999
2 56210 97.4065 4.4744 0013049 207.4212 152.6338 15.22766365 1120
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56211U 23054AK 23108.67616373 .00023146 00000-0 98687-3 0 9999
2 56211 97.4159 4.4821 0013922 214.8767 145.1558 15.22851872 1127
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56212U 23054AL 23108.67593023 .00024764 00000-0 10518-2 0 9999
2 56212 97.4165 4.4827 0014352 214.3911 145.6398 15.22963216 1128
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56213U 23054AM 23108.67589746 .00023230 00000-0 98693-3 0 9995
2 56213 97.4085 4.4766 0013769 207.9913 152.0584 15.22972908 1120
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56214U 23054AN 23108.67575072 .00021483 00000-0 91136-3 0 9996
2 56214 97.4112 4.4786 0014259 209.6009 150.4422 15.23033670 1122
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56215U 23054AP 23105.38529514 -.00000047 00000-0 00000+0 0 9992
2 56215 98.2100 359.9639 0004700 353.9000 352.2100 14.62024339 597
0 TBA - TO BE ASSIGNED
1 56216U 23054AQ 23105.38529514 -.00000047 00000-0 00000+0 0 9993
2 56216 98.2100 359.9639 0004700 353.9000 352.2100 14.62024339 598
EDIT: I’ve just noticed that 56208 OBJECT is missing from the list. So, maybe we wait for one more OBJECT.
Thank for the TLE set, unfortunately there isn’t currently another way to request new TLE set used than writing here. With TLE set published by space-track.org, let me know if any of these TLE sets is better to follow for now.
Suggestions in SatNOGS DB for the satellites have been reviewed and approved.
What do you mean by download observations, do you mean IQ? If yes, unfortunately is not possible. Currently waterfall png, audio and data, if exist, are what you can get from the observations.
Based on the TLE sets in the previous post:
| Temporary NORAD ID | Satellite | NORAD ID to follow | Other NORAD IDs | Identified | Deployed | Last Update |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RECEIVED AND DEMODULATED | ||||||
| 99401 | CIRBE | 56188 | - | NO | YES | Add 56188 as NORAD to follow, currently not other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99179 | ION SCV-010 | 56191 | 56192, 56193 | NO | YES | Add 56191 as NORAD to follow, add 56192, 56193 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99195 | CONNECTA T2.1 | 56210 | 56207, 56209, 56211 | NO | YES | Add 56210 as NORAD to follow, add 56207, 56209, 56211 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99185 | BRO-9 | 56184 | 56183, 56185, 56186 | NO | YES | Add 56184 as NORAD to follow, add 56183, 56185, 56186 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99245 | INSPIRE-SAT 7 | 56211 | 56210 | NO | YES | Add 56211 as NORAD to follow, add 56210 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99193 | KILICSAT | 56181 | 56180, 56182-56184 | NO | YES | - Silent since 2023-04-16 23:55:25 |
| 99201 | RoseyCubesat-1 | 56205 | 56212, 56213 | NO | YES | Add 56205 as NORAD to follow, add 56212, 56213 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| RECEIVED | ||||||
| 99186 | DEWASAT-2 | 56180 | 56181, 56182 | NO | YES | Add 56180 as NORAD to follow, add 56181, 56182 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99178 | Vigoride-6 | 56197 | 56196, 56198-56200 | NO | YES | Add 56197 as NORAD to follow, add 56196, 56198-56200 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99257 | Tomorrow-R1 | 56196 | 56197-56200 | NO | YES | Add 56196 as NORAD to follow, add 56197-56200 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99171 | LEMUR-2-ROMEO-N-LEO | - | - | NO | YES | |
| 99190 | SSS-2B | 56185 | 56182-56184, 56186 | NO | YES | Add 56185 as NORAD to follow, add 56182-56184, 56186 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99236 | SAPLING | - | - | NO | YES | New TLE set |
| 99184 | PLEIADES YEARLING | - | - | NO | YES | Received by 3rd Party but only for the first 50min |
| NOT RECEIVED | ||||||
| 99283 | TAIFA-1 | - | - | NO | YES | Not received - There are some signals in some observations but probably not TAIFA-1 |
| 99180 | Sateliot-0 | - | - | NO | YES | Not received |
| 99173 | VCUB1 | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from ION SCV-010 |
| 99177 | REVELA | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from Vigoride 6 |
| 99176 | VIREO | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | |
| 99187 | ROM-2 | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from ION SCV-010 |
| 99182 | MRC-100 | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from ION SCV-010 |
| 99181 | IRIS-C | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from Vigoride 6 |
| 99175 | LLITED A | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from Vigoride 6 |
| 99174 | LLITED B | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from Vigoride 6 |
| 99183 | DISCO-1 | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from Vigoride 6 |
| NOT IN DB | ||||||
| - | GHGSAT-C6 | NO | YES | |||
| - | GHGSAT-C8 | NO | YES | |||
| - | LEMUR-2-ONREFLECTION | NO | YES | |||
| - | GHGSAT-C7 | NO | YES | |||
| - | FACSAT-2 | NO | YES | |||
| - | LEMUR-2-SPACEGUS | NO | YES | |||
| - | NUSAT-36 | NO | YES | |||
| - | NUSAT-37 | NO | YES | |||
| - | NUSAT-38 | NO | YES | |||
| - | UMBRA-06 | NO | YES | |||
| - | HAWK-7B | NO | YES | |||
| - | HAWK-7A | NO | YES | |||
| - | HAWK-7C | NO | YES | |||
| - | NUSAT-39 | NO | YES | |||
| - | IMECE | NO | YES | |||
| - | GHOST-2 | NO | YES | |||
| - | GHOST-1 | NO | YES | |||
| - | NORSAT TD | NO | YES | |||
| - | ORBASTRO-AF-1(Brokkr) | NO | YES | |||
| - | LS3C | NO | YES | |||
| - | ITS ABOUT TIME | NO | YES | |||
| - | EPICHyper-1 | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from ION SCV-010 |
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Celestrak transporter matches:
Results for Transporter at 2023-04-19 18:22:54.406 UTC
SupGP source: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/sup-gp.php?FILE=transporter-7&FORMAT=csv
SupGP epoch span: 2023-04-15 07:49:04.877 UTC to 2023-04-15 09:23:07.778 UTC
18 SDS GP source: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/gp.php?INTDES=2023-054&FORMAT=csv
18 SDS GP epoch span: 2023-04-15 09:14:49.500 UTC to 2023-04-19 13:18:37.982 UTC
RMS span: 2023-04-15 09:23:07.778 UTC to 2023-04-15 15:23:07.778 UTC
Best match of SupGP to 18 SDS GP
NO MATCH: 70301/GHGSAT-C6 (4.44 days old) => 56213/OBJECT AM (1.09 days old) [RMS = 1.057 km]
NO MATCH: 70302/SSS-2B (4.44 days old) => 56186/OBJECT J (1.15 days old) [RMS = 2.402 km]
NO MATCH: 70303/GHGSAT-C8 (4.44 days old) => 56211/OBJECT AK (1.09 days old) [RMS = 1.407 km]
NO MATCH: 70304/DEWASAT-2 (4.44 days old) => 56181/OBJECT D (1.15 days old) [RMS = 3.763 km]
NO MATCH: 70305/KILICSAT (4.44 days old) => 56179/OBJECT B (1.15 days old) [RMS = 1.872 km]
NO MATCH: 70306/ORBASTRO-AF-1 (4.44 days old) => 56179/OBJECT B (1.15 days old) [RMS = 0.690 km]
NO MATCH: 70307/BRO-9 (4.44 days old) => 56179/OBJECT B (1.15 days old) [RMS = 5.671 km]
NO MATCH: 70308/LEMUR-2-ONREFLECTION (4.44 days old) => 56182/OBJECT E (1.15 days old) [RMS = 1.704 km]
NO MATCH: 70309/GHGSAT-C7 (4.44 days old) => 56181/OBJECT D (1.15 days old) [RMS = 4.471 km]
NO MATCH: 70310/TAIFA-1 (4.44 days old) => 56209/OBJECT AH (1.09 days old) [RMS = 2.462 km]
NO MATCH: 70311/CONNECTA T2.1 (4.44 days old) => 56212/OBJECT AL (1.09 days old) [RMS = 3.590 km]
NO MATCH: 70312/SAPLING (4.44 days old) => 56214/OBJECT AN (1.09 days old) [RMS = 5.169 km]
NO MATCH: 70313/LS3C (4.44 days old) => 56214/OBJECT AN (1.09 days old) [RMS = 1.800 km]
NO MATCH: 70314/FACSAT-2 (4.44 days old) => 56214/OBJECT AN (1.09 days old) [RMS = 1.911 km]
NO MATCH: 70315/ROSEYCUBESAT-1 & INSPIRE-SAT (4.44 days old) => 56212/OBJECT AL (1.09 days old) [RMS = 0.457 km]
NO MATCH: 70316/PLEIADES YEARLING (4.44 days old) => 56209/OBJECT AH (1.09 days old) [RMS = 3.689 km]
NO MATCH: 70317/IT'S ABOUT TIME (4.43 days old) => 56188/OBJECT L (1.15 days old) [RMS = 1.130 km]
NO MATCH: 70318/CIRBE (4.43 days old) => 56185/OBJECT H (1.15 days old) [RMS = 3.066 km]
NO MATCH: 70319/SATELIOT-0 (4.43 days old) => 56183/OBJECT F (1.15 days old) [RMS = 1.318 km]
NO MATCH: 70320/LEMUR-2-SPACEGUS (4.43 days old) => 56187/OBJECT K (1.15 days old) [RMS = 1.401 km]
NO MATCH: 70321/LEMUR-2-ROMEO-N-LEO (4.43 days old) => 56206/OBJECT AE (1.09 days old) [RMS = 0.589 km]
NO MATCH: 70322/NUSAT-36 (4.43 days old) => 56190/OBJECT N (1.08 days old) [RMS = 1.638 km]
NO MATCH: 70323/NUSAT-37 (4.43 days old) => 56203/OBJECT AB (1.02 days old) [RMS = 3.396 km]
NO MATCH: 70324/NUSAT-38 (4.43 days old) => 56203/OBJECT AB (1.02 days old) [RMS = 1.370 km]
NO MATCH: 70325/UMBRA-06 (4.43 days old) => 56200/OBJECT Y (1.02 days old) [RMS = 2.462 km]
NO MATCH: 70326/HAWK-7B (4.43 days old) => 56192/OBJECT Q (1.09 days old) [RMS = 6.003 km]
NO MATCH: 70327/HAWK-7A (4.43 days old) => 56192/OBJECT Q (1.09 days old) [RMS = 2.940 km]
NO MATCH: 70328/HAWK-7C (4.43 days old) => 56200/OBJECT Y (1.02 days old) [RMS = 2.191 km]
NO MATCH: 70329/TOMORROW-R1 (4.43 days old) => 56200/OBJECT Y (1.02 days old) [RMS = 1.522 km]
NO MATCH: 70330/NORSAT TD (4.43 days old) => 56195/OBJECT T (1.09 days old) [RMS = 1.581 km]
NO MATCH: 70331/NUSAT-39 (4.43 days old) => 56201/OBJECT Z (1.02 days old) [RMS = 1.037 km]
NO MATCH: 70332/GHOST-2 (4.43 days old) => 56199/OBJECT X (1.09 days old) [RMS = 1.127 km]
NO MATCH: 70333/ION SCV-010 (4.43 days old) => 56194/OBJECT S (1.09 days old) [RMS = 0.672 km]
NO MATCH: 70334/GHOST-1 (4.42 days old) => 56195/OBJECT T (1.09 days old) [RMS = 2.704 km]
NO MATCH: 70335/VIGORIDE 6 (4.42 days old) => 56197/OBJECT V (1.09 days old) [RMS = 1.270 km]
NO MATCH: 70336/IMECE (4.37 days old) => 56178/OBJECT A (0.21 days old) [RMS = 0.970 km]
Best matches for 18 SDS GP to SupGP
The following 18 SDS GP were uniquely assigned to one SupGP:
NO MATCH: 56178/OBJECT A (0.21 days old) assigned to 70336/IMECE [RMS = 0.970 km]
NO MATCH: 56182/OBJECT E (1.15 days old) assigned to 70308/LEMUR-2-ONREFLECTION [RMS = 1.704 km]
NO MATCH: 56183/OBJECT F (1.15 days old) assigned to 70319/SATELIOT-0 [RMS = 1.318 km]
NO MATCH: 56185/OBJECT H (1.15 days old) assigned to 70318/CIRBE [RMS = 3.066 km]
NO MATCH: 56186/OBJECT J (1.15 days old) assigned to 70302/SSS-2B [RMS = 2.402 km]
NO MATCH: 56187/OBJECT K (1.15 days old) assigned to 70320/LEMUR-2-SPACEGUS [RMS = 1.401 km]
NO MATCH: 56188/OBJECT L (1.15 days old) assigned to 70317/IT'S ABOUT TIME [RMS = 1.130 km]
NO MATCH: 56190/OBJECT N (1.08 days old) assigned to 70322/NUSAT-36 [RMS = 1.638 km]
NO MATCH: 56194/OBJECT S (1.09 days old) assigned to 70333/ION SCV-010 [RMS = 0.672 km]
NO MATCH: 56197/OBJECT V (1.09 days old) assigned to 70335/VIGORIDE 6 [RMS = 1.270 km]
NO MATCH: 56199/OBJECT X (1.09 days old) assigned to 70332/GHOST-2 [RMS = 1.127 km]
NO MATCH: 56201/OBJECT Z (1.02 days old) assigned to 70331/NUSAT-39 [RMS = 1.037 km]
NO MATCH: 56206/OBJECT AE (1.09 days old) assigned to 70321/LEMUR-2-ROMEO-N-LEO [RMS = 0.589 km]
NO MATCH: 56211/OBJECT AK (1.09 days old) assigned to 70303/GHGSAT-C8 [RMS = 1.407 km]
NO MATCH: 56213/OBJECT AM (1.09 days old) assigned to 70301/GHGSAT-C6 [RMS = 1.057 km]
15 unique matches found out of 36 possible matches
The following 18 SDS GP were assigned to more than one SupGP:
56179/OBJECT B (1.15 days old) assigned to 70306/ORBASTRO-AF-1 (0.690 km), 70305/KILICSAT (1.872 km), 70307/BRO-9 (5.671 km) [NO MATCH]
56181/OBJECT D (1.15 days old) assigned to 70304/DEWASAT-2 (3.763 km), 70309/GHGSAT-C7 (4.471 km) [NO MATCH]
56192/OBJECT Q (1.09 days old) assigned to 70327/HAWK-7A (2.940 km), 70326/HAWK-7B (6.003 km) [NO MATCH]
56195/OBJECT T (1.09 days old) assigned to 70330/NORSAT TD (1.581 km), 70334/GHOST-1 (2.704 km) [NO MATCH]
56200/OBJECT Y (1.02 days old) assigned to 70329/TOMORROW-R1 (1.522 km), 70328/HAWK-7C (2.191 km), 70325/UMBRA-06 (2.462 km) [NO MATCH]
56203/OBJECT AB (1.02 days old) assigned to 70324/NUSAT-38 (1.370 km), 70323/NUSAT-37 (3.396 km) [NO MATCH]
56209/OBJECT AH (1.09 days old) assigned to 70310/TAIFA-1 (2.462 km), 70316/PLEIADES YEARLING (3.689 km) [NO MATCH]
56212/OBJECT AL (1.09 days old) assigned to 70315/ROSEYCUBESAT-1 & INSPIRE-SAT (0.457 km), 70311/CONNECTA T2.1 (3.590 km) [NO MATCH]
56214/OBJECT AN (1.09 days old) assigned to 70313/LS3C (1.800 km), 70314/FACSAT-2 (1.911 km), 70312/SAPLING (5.169 km) [NO MATCH]
9 multiple matches found out of 36 possible matches
The following 18 SDS GP had no SupGP assigned:
56180/OBJECT C (0.56 days old)
56184/OBJECT G (1.15 days old)
56189/OBJECT M (1.08 days old)
56191/OBJECT P (1.09 days old)
56193/OBJECT R (1.09 days old)
56196/OBJECT U (1.09 days old)
56198/OBJECT W (1.09 days old)
56202/OBJECT AA (1.02 days old)
56204/OBJECT AC (1.09 days old)
56205/OBJECT AD (1.09 days old)
56207/OBJECT AF (1.09 days old)
56210/OBJECT AJ (1.09 days old)
56215/OBJECT AP (4.38 days old)
56216/OBJECT AQ (4.38 days old)
No matches found for 14 out of 36 possible matches
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Comparing Celestrak transporter matches with our current fits:
Best match of SupGP to 18 SDS GP
| Satellite | Celestrak Match | Comparison With SatNOGS results |
|---|---|---|
| GHGSAT-C6 | 56213 | Possible for RoseyCubesat, no data for GHGSAT-C6 |
| SSS-2B | 56186 | Possible for SSS-2B and BRO-9 |
| GHGSAT-C8 | 56211 | Current best fit with INSPIRE-SAT 7, possible for CONNECTA T2.1, no data for GHGSAT-C8 |
| DEWASAT-2 | 56181 | Current best fit for KILICSAT, possible fit for DEWASAT-2 |
| KILICSAT | 56179 | Not a possible fit for KILICSAT |
| ORBASTRO-AF-1 | 56179 | No data for ORBASTRO-AF-1 |
| BRO-9 | 56179 | Not a possible fit for BRO-9 |
| LEMUR-2-ONREFLECTION | 56182 | Possible for KILICSAT, DEWASAT-2 and SSS-2B, no data for LEMUR-2-ONREFLECTION |
| GHGSAT-C7 | 56181 | Current best fit for KILICSAT, possible fit for DEWASAT-2, no data for GHGSAT-C7 |
| TAIFA-1 | 56209 | Possible for CONNECTA T2.1, no data for TAIFA-1 |
| CONNECTA T2.1 | 56212 | Not possible for CONNECTA T2.1, possible for RoseyCubesat-1 |
| SAPLING | 56214 | No data for SAPLING |
| LS3C | 56214 | No data for LS3C |
| FACSAT-2 | 56214 | No data for FACSAT-2 |
| ROSEYCUBESAT-1 & INSPIRE-SAT | 56212 | Not possible for INSPIRE-SAT-7, possible for RoseyCubesat |
| PLEIADES YEARLING | 56209 | Possible for CONNECTA T2.1, no data for PLEIADES YEARLING |
| IT’S ABOUT TIME | 56188 | Best and unique for now fit for CIRBE |
| CIRBE | 56185 | Not possible for CIRBE, possible for BRO-9, current best fit for SSS-2B |
| SATELIOT-0 | 56183 | Possible for BRO-9, no data for SATELIOT-0 |
| LEMUR-2-SPACEGUS | 56187 | No data for LEMUR-2-SPACEGUS |
| LEMUR-2-ROMEO-N-LEO | 56206 | No data for LEMUR-2-ROMEO-N-LEO |
| NUSAT-36 | 56190 | No data for NUSAT-36 |
| NUSAT-37 | 56203 | No data for NUSAT-37 |
| NUSAT-38 | 56203 | No data for NUSAT-38 |
| UMBRA-06 | 56200 | Possible for Vigoride-6 and TOMORROW-R1, no data for UMBRA-06 |
| HAWK-7B | 56192 | Possible for ION SCV-010, no data for HAWK-7B |
| HAWK-7A | 56192 | Possible for ION SCV-010, no data for HAWK-7A |
| HAWK-7C | 56200 | Possible for Vigoride-6 and TOMORROW-R1, no data for HAWK-7C |
| TOMORROW-R1 | 56200 | Possible for Vigoride-6 and TOMORROW-R1 |
| NORSAT TD | 56195 | No data for NORSAT TD |
| NUSAT-39 | 56201 | No data for NUSAT-39 |
| GHOST-2 | 56199 | No data for GHOST-2 |
| ION SCV-010 | 56194 | Not possible for ION SCV-010 |
| GHOST-1 | 56195 | No data for GHOST-1 |
| VIGORIDE 6 | 56197 | Possible for Vigoride-6 and TOMORROW-R1 |
| IMECE | 56178 | No data for IMECE |
Best matches for 18 SDS GP to SupGP
The following 18 SDS GP were uniquely assigned to one SupGP:
| Satellite | Celestrak Match | Comparison With SatNOGS results |
|---|---|---|
| SATELIOT-0 | 56183 | Possible for BRO-9, no data for SATELIOT-0 |
| CIRBE | 56185 | Not possible for CIRBE, possible for BRO-9, current best fit for SSS-2B |
| SSS-2B | 56186 | Possible for SSS-2B and BRO-9 |
| ION SCV-010 | 56194 | Not possible for ION SCV-010 |
| VIGORIDE 6 | 56197 | Possible for Vigoride-6 and TOMORROW-R1 |
| LEMUR-2-ROMEO-N-LEO | 56206 | No data for LEMUR-2-ROMEO-N-LEO |
The following 18 SDS GP were assigned to more than one SupGP:
| Satellites | Celestrak Match | Comparison With SatNOGS results |
|---|---|---|
| ORBASTRO-AF-1, KILICSAT, BRO-9 | 56179 | Not possible for KILICSAT and BRO-9, no data for ORBASTRO-AF-1 |
| TAIFA-1, PLEIADES YEARLING | 56209 | No data for TAIFA-1 and PLEIADES YEARLING |
| ROSEYCUBESAT-1, INSPIRE-SAT 7, CONNECTA T2.1 | 56212 | Not possible for INSPIRE-SAT 7 and CONNECTA T2.1, possible for RoseyCubesat-1 |
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Based on Celestrak matches, I’ve updated the NORAD ID to follow on the satellites that we don’t have observation data. @KN6HCC @BroncoSpace if you think that other NORAD IDs fit better let me know to update SAPLING and PLEIADES YEARLING. I’ve also changed RoseyCubesat-1 NORAD ID to follow base on PA0DLO’s tweet.
| Temporary NORAD ID | Satellite | NORAD ID to follow | Other NORAD IDs | Identified | Deployed | Last Update |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| RECEIVED AND DEMODULATED | ||||||
| 99401 | CIRBE | 56188 | - | NO | YES | Add 56188 as NORAD to follow, currently not other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99179 | ION SCV-010 | 56191 | 56192, 56193 | NO | YES | Add 56191 as NORAD to follow, add 56192, 56193 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99195 | CONNECTA T2.1 | 56210 | 56207, 56209, 56211 | NO | YES | Add 56210 as NORAD to follow, add 56207, 56209, 56211 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99185 | BRO-9 | 56184 | 56183, 56185, 56186 | NO | YES | Add 56184 as NORAD to follow, add 56183, 56185, 56186 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99245 | INSPIRE-SAT 7 | 56211 | 56210 | NO | YES | Add 56211 as NORAD to follow, add 56210 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99193 | KILICSAT | 56181 | 56180, 56182-56184 | NO | YES | - Silent since 2023-04-16 23:55:25 |
| 99201 | RoseyCubesat-1 | 56212 | 56205, 56213 | NO | YES | Change NORAD to follow to 56212 and move 56205 to other possible NORAD IDs |
| RECEIVED | ||||||
| 99186 | DEWASAT-2 | 56180 | 56181, 56182 | NO | YES | Add 56180 as NORAD to follow, add 56181, 56182 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99178 | Vigoride-6 | 56197 | 56196, 56198-56200 | NO | YES | Add 56197 as NORAD to follow, add 56196, 56198-56200 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99257 | Tomorrow-R1 | 56196 | 56197–56200 | NO | YES | Add 56196 as NORAD to follow, add 56197–56200 as other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99171 | LEMUR-2-ROMEO-N-LEO | 56206 | - | NO | YES | Add 56206 as NORAD to folow from Celestrak match |
| 99190 | SSS-2B | 56185 | 56182-56184, 56186 | NO | YES | other possible NORAD IDs |
| 99236 | SAPLING | 56214 | - | NO | YES | Add 56214 as NORAD to folow from Celestrak match |
| 99184 | PLEIADES YEARLING | 56209 | - | NO | YES | Add 56209 as NORAD to folow from Celestrak match |
| NOT RECEIVED | ||||||
| 99283 | TAIFA-1 | 56209 | all | NO | YES | Not received - Add 56209 as NORAD to folow from Celestrak match |
| 99180 | Sateliot-0 | 56183 | - | NO | YES | Not received - Add 56183 as NORAD to folow from Celestrak match |
| 99173 | VCUB1 | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from ION SCV-010 |
| 99177 | REVELA | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from Vigoride 6 |
| 99176 | VIREO | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | |
| 99187 | ROM-2 | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from ION SCV-010 |
| 99182 | MRC-100 | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from ION SCV-010 |
| 99181 | IRIS-C | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from Vigoride 6 |
| 99175 | LLITED A | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from Vigoride 6 |
| 99174 | LLITED B | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from Vigoride 6 |
| 99183 | DISCO-1 | - | - | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from Vigoride 6 |
| NOT IN DB | ||||||
| - | GHGSAT-C6 | NO | YES | |||
| - | GHGSAT-C8 | NO | YES | |||
| - | LEMUR-2-ONREFLECTION | NO | YES | |||
| - | GHGSAT-C7 | NO | YES | |||
| - | FACSAT-2 | NO | YES | |||
| - | LEMUR-2-SPACEGUS | NO | YES | |||
| - | NUSAT-36 | NO | YES | |||
| - | NUSAT-37 | NO | YES | |||
| - | NUSAT-38 | NO | YES | |||
| - | UMBRA-06 | NO | YES | |||
| - | HAWK-7B | NO | YES | |||
| - | HAWK-7A | NO | YES | |||
| - | HAWK-7C | NO | YES | |||
| - | NUSAT-39 | NO | YES | |||
| - | IMECE | NO | YES | |||
| - | GHOST-2 | NO | YES | |||
| - | GHOST-1 | NO | YES | |||
| - | NORSAT TD | NO | YES | |||
| - | ORBASTRO-AF-1(Brokkr) | NO | YES | |||
| - | LS3C | NO | YES | |||
| - | ITS ABOUT TIME | NO | YES | |||
| - | EPICHyper-1 | NO | UNKNOWN | Waiting deployment from ION SCV-010 |
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Wow! you guys can calculate TLEs independently? that’s really awesome!!!
But anyway, we didn’t manage yet to establish communication with the satellite, our radio ham friend ground station has low power and he had configuration issues. We will ask help from the community if we get desperate.
But anyway, we didn’t do power budget calculations, so we put 3 minutes out of abundance of caution. What sort of time would you need? anyway, it’s not possible to command the satellite yet. but we will consider if it helps so much 
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@fredy Thanks for putting together that ‘Celestrack transporter matches’ chart, I was trying to make sense of how ‘56185’ could possibly be CIRBE when Celestrak posted that yesterday. Based on our STRF observations, 56188 still seems to be best. Early on SSS-2B (56186) seemed to be a 2nd place candidate but has since fallen to an rms of > 0.500 kHz.
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Now that there are published TLE sets from space-track.org we don’t need it so much, the next period of need will be close to re-entry, which I hope is far in the future for your mission.
Anyway, the answer to your question is as frequent as possible. Theoretically for the LEO orbits we have usually 8-12min passes over the stations and we need at least 3 received singals. In most cases the stations can not receive from 0 degree elevation, so 1-4min could go without reception, in other words in worst case scenario of an 8min pass with 4min no-reception we need 3 signals in 4min = ~1 signal per minute. However I think a frequency of 1 signal per 1.5min or 2min could work too.
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It looks like that 4 days were enough to change the orbits and mix the satellites’ order since deployment.
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I see that with the latest update from Celestrak, quite a few of these objects have been deemed worthy of a final designation:
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Looking at the following observation there seem to be 3 satellites using frequencies around 400.500.
If somebody knows more about the modulation used by satellites around 400.5 and could share this information, it will be easier to differentiate.
The object ID’s in the image are a indication and not definite yet.
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Hi Jan!
The 40k-wide signal centered on 400.500 appears to be Tomorrow-R1 @ 38k4. I have not been able to get a clean enough signal to decode, but ONE SatNogs observation did:
https://network.satnogs.org/observations/7420496/
The less-frequent 40k-wide signal at 400.524 appears to be (probably) 38k4 from Vigoride-6, but neither I nor any of the SatNogs observations have been able to get a decode because of all the transmitters so close together this early after deployment.
Of course this all gets easier when they spread out.
-Scott
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