"No station available"

I’m afraid I’m missing something obvious. This last weekend, I JUST got my station up and running, and I spammed a bunch of observations… then I couldn’t schedule an obs for Monitor 3. I figured MAYBE because I’d already hit UMKA-1, and they seem to be cousins up there, always within a few minutes of each other.

Now, I’m trying to schedule obs for Nanozond-1 before it dusts, and again “No Station Available”, even though I KNOW it’s going to pass overhead (unlike IO-86, no offense, Bali!).

My process:

  1. Go to (https://network.satnogs.org/observations/new/)
  2. Satellite => Nanozond-1 from dropdown list.
  3. Watch as it populates the transmitter and the station.
  4. Uh… crap. Transmitter defaults to GMSK. My station usually auto-populates, but it doesn’t. If I switch to Silversat, it populates SSDV and my station. Back to Nanozond, and GMSK/No Station available. Switch from GMSK to SSTV, still nada. Freqs are UHF, and that’s what my station is set to… so…

Is there a secret button I’m missing? Need to squint my left eye, not my right eye? What am I doing wrong? Monitor3 and Nanozond are both polar, both go over my house, and I collected a bunch of Monitor3 manually. So…

Help?

chris

RS58S (Monitor-3) as well as RS49S (Nanozond-1) have no IARU coordinated transmitter.

I apologize in advance, Daniel, I know this next comment comes out rude, but…

“… no IARU coordinated transmitter.” So what?

I see other observations for Monitor3. I see in the image above that GMSK has a huge number of positive SatNOGS collections (green) vs. unknown (orange) or bad (red).

It SEEMS that the lack of IARU coordinated transmitters has no bearing on SatNOGS stations collecting it.

Unless there’s a checkbox for “Only collect IARU Coordinated Transmitters”. I don’t understand why other CAN and I CANNOT.

Chris

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what i understand, for every sat that has label frequency misuse, only have limited chance to obs.

so the best way if you interest is just ask @fredy to schedule it for you.

Hi Chris,

Please also confirm the following setting for your ground station.

Daniel

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No that’s not true, I’m (and the people that belong in the operations group) avoiding scheduling for these satellites if there isn’t any SSA interest. In short this is our way to pressure satellite teams to coordinate when they use the amateur radio bands.

@wo2cc You can read more about SatNOGS policy on this satellites in Spectrum Management - SatNOGS Wiki

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@fredy : Thank you very much. That explains a lot and was in the same direction my thinking was headed… I just couldn’t find the answer with my searches. I had searched the Wiki for “IARU”, but I didn’t notice the article you shared. Not that my vote carries any special weight, but I agree with the positions taken.

@dl7ndr : Daniel, thank you. I’d looked at that toggle a dozen times, but “Frequency Violator” never registered (I had convinced myself it was who I was allowing to sked my station… AT ALL). You are another great source of knowledge and a wonderful contributor that I follow a lot… It’s just that your knowledge is so far beyond mine that it’s super hard to catch up sometimes. Thank you for being patient with me.

@bali : I love the cheat: “Just ask fredy to do the hard work” That goes into the “In Case of Emergency, Break Glass” part of my toolkit.

Thanks everyone. Another week of testing the LNA, and I’ll have my station out of testing for you all to spam, in revenge for my questions. :slight_smile:

c

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:pensive_face: “cannot submit obs until the orange label turns green.”

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Gotta get my LNA figured out. I don’t want to turn to critter on and blank out the whole environment! It’s coming… I promise!

There you go, @bali … Green. I’ve stacked a lot in there right now, looking to see if there’s a pattern in my local interference, but feel free to fill in the gaps!

Cheers, and thanks for the fish.

c

why not SSTV? the last sstv before decayed…

Probably because I don’t understand the SatNOGS demodulation process well enough. I ASSUME demod before the recording is the same (FM) for GMSK and SSTV both.

I have a pass here in about an hour that I was going to dupe and compare between my yagi/portable and the SatNOGS. If GMSK and SSTV have the same demodulation but different processing… what’s the difference? (well, besides the “data” tab being mis-populated). (And yes, I acknowledge that I’m one of those guys that doesn’t read all the instructions… it’s bitten me here already, and likely will again!)

FWIW, my portable setup is much more sensitive than my SatNOGS one, so that’s my go-to for “gotta-get” captures. At least today, it is…

chris

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you’re right!

your obs can decoded perfectly. :+1:

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FYI you had the final observation on Nanozond-1 https://network.satnogs.org/observations/13855804/

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Neat! Thanks for letting me know!