ISS at 437.025 MHz?

Today, at the alleged time of the RSP-3 pass, I several times observed a weak signal similar to CW with a pronounced Doppler effect.
The frequency is approximately 25 kHz below the calculated one, i.e. approximately 437.025 kHz.
I do not know any sat at this time at this frequency over KO33ru.
In SatNOGS observations I did not find this signal, or too far from the central frequency, or too weak.

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maybe because this we cannot find the signal track on waterfall, because satnogs default limited to 48 kHz, 24 below, and 24 above. is it possible for station to change manually the sample rate of waterfall ?

No, this is controlled by the observation and consequently flowgraph, which is based on the DB transmitters. The mode FM and CW will always result in 48k rate.
Also, only those with a downlink frequency range can be adjusted when scheduling. For this kind of search, iirc, @fredy wants a new transmitter suggestion set as unconfirmed. I’m not sure what the limit for frequency drift is.

this is good idea

The satellites I know at this time. (In the lower register is inactive):

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@EU1SAT can you also check if any of these where visible at that time from your station:

ISS
1 25544U 98067A   25264.50666189  .00017816  00000-0  31405-3 0  9999
2 25544  51.6340 189.6600 0004358   3.8529 356.2493 15.50479098530107
OPAL (OO-38)
1 26063U 00004C   25264.58362947  .00000199  00000+0  84866-4 0  9998
2 26063 100.1964 146.9286 0036585  74.5007 286.0209 14.37812763344680
0 CHUBUSAT 2
1 41338U 16012B   25264.40702623  .00008047  00000-0  39344-3 0  9997
2 41338  30.9985 280.4189 0010171 217.9073 142.0851 15.16800917527515
0 CZ-4C R/B
1 43012U 17072C   25264.54789851  .00000638  00000-0  13564-3 0  9992
2 43012  98.5746 358.9836 0122088 259.1604  99.5834 14.58393077417479
0 ESEO
1 43792U 18099AL  25264.60749471  .00003178  00000-0  24030-3 0  9990
2 43792  97.4370 308.1033 0012651 165.4946 194.6645 15.02978692371448
0 DEKART
1 46493U 20068H   25264.58380921  .00015110  00000-0  53462-3 0  9998
2 46493  97.8670 251.3195 0012180 144.6613 215.5436 15.29192779274605
0 OSCAR 16 (PACSAT)
1 20439U 90005D   25264.59911418  .00000192  00000-0  85982-4 0  9997
2 20439  98.8851 288.5549 0009647 302.6354 171.4494 14.33810485863441
0 OBJECT A
1 55009U 23001A   25264.41233759  .00013947  00000-0  43004-3 0  9996
2 55009  97.3595 323.8240 0006776  17.5755 342.5721 15.33685946150906
0 KUWAITSAT-1
1 55103U 23001CY  25264.41369276  .00018974  00000-0  52618-3 0  9991
2 55103  97.3648 327.8852 0009681 337.2147  22.8667 15.36932284151134
0 RUZAEVKA-390
1 61766U 24199AH  25264.58298057  .00054867  00000-0  10697-2 0  9999
2 61766  97.3333 135.3673 0009972 143.1568 217.0369 15.47297033 93066
0 OBJECT K
1 57175U 23091K   25264.44062303  .00013091  00000-0  58858-3 0  9992
2 57175  97.5477 321.1259 0010860 347.4115  12.6847 15.21205172123335
0 OBJECT AA
1 57190U 23091AA  25264.47124606  .00046346  00000-0  10992-2 0  9992
2 57190  97.5447 330.9938 0004489 281.5217  78.5526 15.41580053123984
2023-091AS
1 57206U 23091AS  25264.48769328  .00032784  00000+0  96346-3 0  9995
2 57206  97.5450 328.5992 0005416 296.5618  63.5069 15.35037161123831
0 OBJECT AV
1 57217U 23091AV  25264.42944068  .00012622  00000-0  55425-3 0  9990
2 57217  97.5484 322.0184 0011796 327.5124  32.5384 15.22013203123380
EQUALIZER03 HERONMK2
1 70375C 23174CC  23315.83661433 -.00026412  00000+0 -14574-2 0    09
2 70375  97.4819  28.7762 0009329 264.3585 154.3842 15.14010932    14
0 SONATE-2
1 59112U 24043Q   25264.63811983  .00027953  00000-0  71460-3 0  9996
2 59112  97.5266  38.2285 0010905 102.9605 257.2859 15.39356398 86320
2024-125A
1 60203U 24125A   25264.36362600  .00028083  00000+0  68216-3 0  9996
2 60203  97.2653 115.3011 0018985 118.1260 242.1908 15.40780569 67922
R5-S4
1 60206U 24125D   25264.56250014  .00014834  00000+0  45475-3 0  9997
2 60206  97.2692 113.6241 0021794 117.8119 242.5336 15.33636518 67829
0 MORDOVIA-IOT
1 61765U 24199AG  25264.57925007  .00065085  00000-0  11630-2 0  9991
2 61765  97.3333 135.8306 0009815 142.2265 217.9677 15.49757457 93090
0 OBJECT BE
1 61787U 24199BE  25264.62271637  .00011215  00000-0  38618-3 0  9996
2 61787  97.3381 131.1080 0015162 181.0824 179.0387 15.30094383 95932
0 OBJECT BA
1 61783U 24199BA  25264.59037859  .00071578  00000-0  12926-2 0  9995
2 61783  97.3301 135.1003 0011968 158.5976 201.5778 15.49405143 96202
0 OBJECT AS
1 61775U 24199AS  25264.61264270  .00016031  00000-0  47998-3 0  9999
2 61775  97.3375 132.0172 0018995 162.8108 197.3783 15.34427609 92848
0 INNOCUBE (TUSAT-31)
1 62616U 25009H   25264.16562146  .00009887  00000-0  44740-3 0  9991
2 62616  97.4166 342.5757 0006560 187.3343 172.7798 15.21082418 37840
POQUITO
1 98706U 25009BY  25021.90669764  .00000000  00000-0 -14212-2 0    09
2 98706  97.4429 104.2661 0003354 352.9277  63.3351 15.17186318    09
RSP-03
1 98654U 98067A   25263.34858520  .00000000  00000-0  26251-3 0    07
2 98654  51.6324 195.5052 0004198 355.4694  19.4145 15.51326978    01
GHS-01
1 98541U 98067A   25263.34858520  .00000000  00000-0  26251-3 0    02
2 98541  51.6324 195.5052 0004198 355.4694  19.4145 15.51326978    06

@bali
Before adding another transmitter for experimenting, I would suggest we get a couple more observations from different locations from this signal.

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All these satellites except 55103 and 70375C are in my base and have already been checked.

NOTE
The following objects from your list are active and unequivocally defined (I often demodulate them):
55009 (OBJECT A) - STAR-VIBE
57175 (OBJECT K) - CubeBel-2
57190 (OBJECT AA) - NANOZOND-1
61783 (OBJECT BA) - ZIMSAT-2

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EQUALIZER03 HERONMK2 (70375C) passed at this time, but the TLE is very old.

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RSP-03 437.050 kHz over KO33ru:
12:45-13:25 UTC - NOTHING HEARD
14:05-15:00 UTC - NOTHING HEARD
15:50-16:40 UTC - NOTHING HEARD
17:40-18:05 UTC - NOTHING HEARD
19:20-19:50 UTC - NOTHING HEARD

at 437.025 kHz Unknown satellite heard again
16:18-16:26 UTC
17:59-18:01 UTC
19:38-19:39 UTC

SDRSharp_20250922_162431Z_437015840Hz_AF.zip (6.9 MB)

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Thanks for sharing the audio file, listening, I immediately reconsigned the garbled AO-16 tones and that is sometimes active on 437.026 MHz

I guess when you add object 20439 you will see Amsat Oscar 16 also passing.

Jan | PE0SAT

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According current TLE It can’t be 20439 !
Or Space-Track again confused the satellites in places?

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MTV …MT approximately in CW as I hear

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Thanks,

Looking at the date and time AO-16 shouldn’t be in your foot print.

A mystery, let investigate further.

Jan | PE0SAT

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I have heart the signal before, can you try and listen to IQ that belongs to this observation SatNOGS Network - Observation 9305336. This IO-26.

The IQ file can be found at this location

This are the details of the recording and can be replayed with SDR#, SDR++ or similar.

Input File     : 'iq_48000_9305336.wav'
Channels       : 2
Sample Rate    : 48000
Precision      : 16-bit
Duration       : 00:08:36.29 = 24781702 samples ~ 38721.4 CDDA sectors
File Size      : 99.1M
Bit Rate       : 1.54M
Sample Encoding: 16-bit Signed Integer PCM

Jan | PE0SAT

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So this isn’t CW but BPSK 1200? What about the frequency difference?

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According current TLE It can’t be IO-26.
Maybe it’s time to create a separate topic?

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@EU1SAT I checked your observations and based on the UTC timestamps you provided either in the screenshot or the text, here is the list of the LEO satellites that were passing over your station (at KO33ru) at all these timestamps:

NORAD ID Satellite Name
25544 0 ISS (ZARYA)
36827 0 PRISMA (TANGO)
49044 0 ISS (NAUKA)
63129 0 PROGRESS MS-30
63520 0 SOYUZ MS-27
64751 0 PROGRESS MS-31
65077 0 DRAGON ENDEAVOUR 6
65304 0 DRAGON CRS-33
65586 0 PROGRESS MS-32
65616 0 CYGNUS NG-23

To be honest I wouldn’t expect any of them to transmit at ~437MHz, so my guess is that it could be one of the deployed satellites. Except if we miss something.

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Sorry to all for the confusion I maybe added to this topic, AO-16 sounded pretty convincing.

The search continues.

Jan | PE0SAT

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Unknown satellite is ISS !!!

“The truth is out there”

SDRSharp_20250923_152914Z_437035028Hz_AF.zip (7.5 MB)

IQ Files in my Telegram channel:

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Unexpectedly an unknown satellite is the first object from your list :smile:

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